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    forgotten poet from the 16th century

    Louise Labe (1524-1566)........"I Live, I Die, I Burn, I Drown"
    I live, I die, I burn, I drown
    I endure at once chill and cold
    Life is at once too soft and too hard
    I have sore troubles mingled with joys

    Suddenly I laugh and at the same time cry
    And in pleasure many a grief endure
    My happiness wanes and yet it lasts unchanged
    All at once I dry up and grow green

    Thus I suffer love's inconstancies
    And when I think the pain is most intense
    Without thinking, it is gone again.

    Then when I feel my joys certain
    And my hour of greatest delight arrived
    I find my pain beginning all over once again.

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    Philip Freneau (1752-1832)

    "On Retirement" by Philip Freneau
    A HERMIT'S house beside a stream
    With forests planted round,
    Whatever it to you may seem
    More real happiness I deem
    Than if I were a monarch crowned.

    A cottage I could call my own
    Remote from domes of care;
    A little garden, walled with stone,
    The wall with ivy overgrown,
    A limpid fountain near,

    Would more substantial joys afford,
    More real bliss impart
    Than all the wealth that misers hoard,
    Than vanquished worlds, or worlds restored--
    Mere cankers of the heart!

    Vain, foolish man! how vast thy pride,
    How little can your wants supply!--
    'Tis surely wrong to grasp so wide--
    You act as if you only had
    To triumph--not to die!

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    Great idea for a topic quasi

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    I don't see much mention or discussion of Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950): http://www.online-literature.com/millay/ . . . but I think she wrote some fabulous stuff--[hey, I don't pretend to be a poet ] and she was the first woman to win the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry [1923]: http://www.pulitzer.org/cgi-bin/catq...ategory=Poetry

    From my favourite poem of hers:

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    Renascence

    All I could see from where I stood
    Was three long mountains and a wood;
    I turned and looked another way,
    And saw three islands in a bay.
    So with my eyes I traced the line
    Of the horizon, thin and fine,
    Straight around till I was come
    Back to where I'd started from;
    And all I saw from where I stood
    Was three long mountains and a wood.
    Over these things I could not see;
    These were the things that bounded me;
    And I could touch them with my hand,
    Almost, I thought, from where I stand.
    And all at once things seemed so small
    My breath came short, and scarce at all.
    But, sure, the sky is big, I said;
    Miles and miles above my head;
    So here upon my back I'll lie
    And look my fill into the sky.
    And so I looked, and, after all,
    The sky was not so very tall.
    The sky, I said, must somewhere stop,
    And -- sure enough! -- I see the top!
    The sky, I thought, is not so grand;
    I 'most could touch it with my hand!
    And reaching up my hand to try,
    I screamed to feel it touch the sky.
    I screamed, and -- lo! -- Infinity
    Came down and settled over me;
    Forced back my scream into my chest,
    Bent back my arm upon my breast,
    And, pressing of the Undefined
    The definition on my mind,
    Held up before my eyes a glass
    Through which my shrinking sight did pass
    Until it seemed I must behold
    Immensity made manifold;
    Whispered to me a word whose sound
    Deafened the air for worlds around,
    And brought unmuffled to my ears
    The gossiping of friendly spheres,
    The creaking of the tented sky,
    The ticking of Eternity.
    I saw and heard, and knew at last
    The How and Why of all things, past,
    And present, and forevermore.
    The Universe, cleft to the core,
    Lay open to my probing sense
    That, sick'ning, I would fain pluck thence
    But could not, -- nay! But needs must suck
    At the great wound, and could not pluck
    My lips away till I had drawn
    All venom out. -- Ah, fearful pawn!
    For my omniscience paid I toll
    In infinite remorse of soul.
    All sin was of my sinning, all
    Atoning mine, and mine the gall
    Of all regret. Mine was the weight
    Of every brooded wrong, the hate
    That stood behind each envious thrust,
    Mine every greed, mine every lust.
    And all the while for every grief,
    Each suffering, I craved relief
    With individual desire, --
    Craved all in vain! And felt fierce fire
    About a thousand people crawl;
    Perished with each, -- then mourned for all!
    A man was starving in Capri;
    He moved his eyes and looked at me;
    I felt his gaze, I heard his moan,
    And knew his hunger as my own.
    I saw at sea a great fog bank
    Between two ships that struck and sank;
    A thousand screams the heavens smote;
    And every scream tore through my throat.
    No hurt I did not feel, no death
    That was not mine; mine each last breath
    That, crying, met an answering cry
    From the compassion that was I.
    All suffering mine, and mine its rod;
    Mine, pity like the pity of God.
    Ah, awful weight! Infinity
    Pressed down upon the finite Me!
    My anguished spirit, like a bird,
    Beating against my lips I heard;
    Yet lay the weight so close about
    There was no room for it without.
    And so beneath the weight lay I
    And suffered death, but could not die.


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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    (I think kiz-paws likes this poet

    Thoughts on the Cosmos


    I

    I do not hold with him who thinks
    The world is jonahed by a jinx;
    That everything is sad and sour,
    And life a withered hothouse flower.

    II

    I hate the Polyanna pest
    Who says that All Is for the Best,
    And hold in high, unhidden scorn
    Who sees the Rose, nor feels the Thorn.

    III

    I do not like extremists who
    Are like the pair in (I) and (II);
    But how I hate the wabbly gink,
    Like me, who knows not what to think!

    Franklin P. Adams 1881-1060
    quasimodo1: thank you for posting Franklin P. Adams (and on my birthday, too!). Yes indeed, he is rough around the edges but I admire his stuff.

    This whole thread is wonderful, there is lots to absorb here, love it!
    Our task must be to free ourselves by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty
    ~Albert Einstein

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    Franklin P. Adams

    Glad to hear it kiz-paws, some of the poetry here has been rescued from much dust. quasi

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    Mirabeau Bridge by Guillaume Apollinaire..............................see previous posting
    Under Mirabeau Bridge runs the Seine
    And our loves
    Must I remember them
    Joy came always after pain
    Let arriving night explain
    Days fade I remain
    Arm in arm let us stay face to face
    While below
    The bridge at our hands passes
    With eternal regards the wave so slow
    Let arriving night explain
    Days fade I remain
    Love goes like this water flows
    Love goes
    Like life is slow
    And like hope is violent
    Let arriving night explain
    Days fade I remain
    The days passed and the weeks spent
    Not times past
    Nor loves sent return again
    Under Mirabeau bridge runs the Seine .......... by G. Apollinaire (1880-1918)
    quasimodo1.... do you have any other poems by this poet that you could share...or even just a link to some ?

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    To Ifiaskaquestion: let me see what is available, poem and link. Thanks for asking. quasimodo1

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    "LACE PASSES INTO NOTHINGNESS ..." by Stephen Mallarme
    Lace passes into nothingness,
    With the ultimate Gamble in doubt,
    In blasphemy revealing just
    Eternal absence of any bed.
    This concordant enmity
    Of a white garland and the same,
    In flight against the pallid glass,
    Hovers and does not enshroud.

    But where, limned gold, the dreamer dwells,
    There sleeps a mournful mandola,
    Its deep lacuna source of song,

    Of a kind that toward some window,
    Formed by that belly or none at all,
    Filial, one might have been born.


    Translation by Patricia Terry and Maurice Z. Shroder Mallarme influenced poetry and music of his era and later, including Rilke and Ravel and even Poe.

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    A short poem of Mark Strand's, found here:

    The Coming of Light


    Even this late it happens:
    the coming of love, the coming of light.
    You wake and the candles are lit as if by themselves,
    stars gather, dreams pour into your pillows,
    sending up warm bouquets of air.
    Even this late the bones of the body shine
    and tomorrow's dust flares into breath.

    *****

    I haven't read a lot of his, but I intend to. His poems are quiet, empty of pretention or ornamentation. There are few verbal pyrotechnics here, even less abstraction, and in my opinion the work shines more clearly because of it.

    "Even this late the bones of the body shine"

    "stars gather, dreams pour into your pillow,"

    Great lines, disarming in their directness and simplicity, they tread that difficult line between the genuinely beautiful and the sentimental, and to me, never lose their way.
    Currently Reading:
    Black Elk Speaks - John G. Neihardt
    Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
    Blue Highways- William Least Heat-Moon


    "...it is in the darkness of their eyes that men get lost." Black Elk

    "To insist that diligent thought would bring an understanding of change was to limit life to the comprehensible." William Least Heat-Moon

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    The Emperor of Ice-Cream

    Call the roller of big cigars,
    The muscular one, and bid him whip
    In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
    Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
    As they are used to wear, and let the boys
    Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
    Let be be the finale of seem.
    The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

    Take from the dresser of deal,
    Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
    On which she embroidered fantails once
    And spread it so as to cover her face.
    If her horny feet protrude, they come
    To show how cold she is, and dumb.
    Let the lamp affix its beam.
    The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

    Wallace Stevens

    Ice cream is cold and thick, but it is also sweet all the while a frozen rock waiting to melt in your mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasimodo1 View Post
    Louise Labe (1524-1566)........"I Live, I Die, I Burn, I Drown"
    I live, I die, I burn, I drown
    I endure at once chill and cold
    Life is at once too soft and too hard
    I have sore troubles mingled with joys

    Suddenly I laugh and at the same time cry
    And in pleasure many a grief endure
    My happiness wanes and yet it lasts unchanged
    All at once I dry up and grow green

    Thus I suffer love's inconstancies
    And when I think the pain is most intense
    Without thinking, it is gone again.

    Then when I feel my joys certain
    And my hour of greatest delight arrived
    I find my pain beginning all over once again.
    This is the beginning and end of life, living life itself. Everything learned may come at something forgotten and everything gained may have come from something lost.

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    David Budbill

    From Moment to Moment

    As everybody knows, Keats said:
    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty" - That is all
    Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    Oh yeah?

    Lao Tzu said:
    True words are not beautiful.
    Beautiful words are not true.

    Now what?


    And


    The Three Goals

    The first goal is to see the thing itself
    in and for itself, to see it simply and clearly
    for what it is.
    No symbolism, please.

    The second goal is to see each individual thing
    as unified, as one, with all the other
    ten thousand things.
    In this regard, a little wine helps a lot.

    The third goal is to grasp the first and the second goals,
    to see the universal and the particular,
    simultaneously.
    Regarding this one, call me when you get it.
    I've always found it rather exciting to remember that there is a difference between what we experience and what we think it means.


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    As one of the neglected poets quoted here, many thanks!

    I refer to the poem: Futurelessness by Ivan Donn Carswell
    Last edited by Igorevich; 08-16-2007 at 01:59 AM.

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    A Letter to a Live Poet
    Sir, since the last Elizabethan died,
    Or, rather, that more Paradisal muse,
    Blind with much light, passed to the light more glorious
    Or deeper blindness, no man's hand, as thine,
    Has, on the world's most noblest chord of song,
    Struck certain magic strains. Ears satiate
    With the clamorous, timorous whisperings of to-day,
    Thrilled to perceive once more the spacious voice
    And serene unterrance of old. We heard
    -- With rapturous breath half-held, as a dreamer dreams
    Who dares not know it dreaming, lest he wake --
    The odorous, amorous style of poetry,
    The melancholy knocking of those lines,
    The long, low soughing of pentameters,
    -- Or the sharp of rhyme as a bird's cry --
    And the innumerable truant polysyllables
    Multitudinously twittering like a bee.
    Fulfilled our hearts were with the music then,
    And all the evenings sighed it to the dawn,
    And all the lovers heard it from all the trees.
    All of the accents upon the all the norms!
    -- And ah! the stress of the penultimate!
    We never knew blank verse could have such feet.

    Where is it now? Oh, more than ever, now
    I sometimes think no poetry is read
    Save where some sepultured Cѕsura bled,
    Royally incarnadining all the line.
    Is the imperial iamb laid to rest,
    And the young trochee, having done enough?
    Ah! turn again! Sing so to us, who are sick
    Of seeming-simple rhymes, bizarre emotions,
    Decked in the simple verses of the day,
    Infinite meaning in a little gloom,
    Irregular thoughts in stanzas regular,
    Modern despair in antique metres, myths
    Incomprehensible at evening,
    And symbols that mean nothing in the dawn.
    The slow lines swell. The new style sighs. The Celt
    Moans round with many voices.
    God! to see
    Gaunt anapѕsts stand up out of the verse,
    Combative accents, stress where no stress should be,
    Spondee on spondee, iamb on choriamb,
    The thrill of all the tribrachs in the world,
    And all the vowels rising to the E!
    To hear the blessed mutter of those verbs,
    Conjunctions passionate toward each other's arms,
    And epithets like amaranthine lovers
    Stretching luxuriously to the stars,
    All prouder pronouns than the dawn, and all
    The thunder of the trumpets of the noun!
    ...Rupert Brooke (1887-1915)

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    caution: Olde English

    You Gote-heard Gods by Sir Philip Sidney
    Strephon.

    You Gote-heard Gods, that loue the grassie mountaines,
    You Nimphes that haunt the springs in pleasant vallies,
    You Satyrs ioyde with free and quiet forests,
    Vouchsafe your silent eares to playning musique,
    Which to my woes giues still an early morning;
    And drawes the dolor on till wery euening.

    Klaius.

    O Mercurie, foregoer to the euening,
    O heauenlie huntresse of the sauage mountaines,
    O louelie starre, entitled of the morning,
    While that my voice doth fill these wofull vallies,
    Vouchsafe your silent eares to plaining musique,
    Which oft hath Echo tir'd in secrete forrests.

    Strephon.

    I that was once free-burges of the forrests,
    Where shade from Sunne, and sports I sought at euening,
    I that was once esteem'd for pleasant musique,
    Am banisht now among the monstrous mountaines
    Of huge despaire, and foule afflictions vallies,
    Am growne a shrich-owle to my selfe each morning.

    Klaius.

    I that was once delighted euery morning,
    Hunting the wilde inhabiters of forrests,
    I that was once the musique of these vallies,
    So darkened am, that all my day is euening,
    Hart-broken so, that molehilles seeme high mountaines,
    And fill the vales with cries in steed of musique.

    Strephon.

    Long since alas, my deadly Swannish musique
    Hath made it selfe a crier of the morning,
    And hath with wailing strength clim'd highest mountaines:
    Long since my thoughts more desert be then forrests:
    Long since I see my ioyes come to their euening,
    And state throwen downe to ouer-troden vallies.

    Klaius.

    Long since the happie dwellers of these vallies,
    Haue praide me leaue my strange exclaiming musique,
    Which troubles their dayes worke, and ioyes of euening:
    Long since I hate the night, more hate the morning:
    Long since my thoughts chase me like beasts in forrests,
    And make me wish my selfe layd vnder mountaines.

    Strephon.

    Me seemes I see the high and stately mountaines,
    Transforme themselues to lowe deiected vallies:
    Me seemes I heare in these ill changed forrests,
    The Nightingales doo learne of Owles their musique:
    Me seemes I feele the comfort of the morning
    Turnde to the mortall serene of an euening.

    Klaius.

    Me seemes I see a filthie clowdie euening,
    As soon as Sunne begins to clime the mountaines:
    Me seemes I feele a noysome sent, the morning
    When I doo smell the flowers of these vallies:
    Me seemes I heare, when I doo heare sweete musique,
    The dreadfull cries of murdred men in forrests.

    Strephon.

    I wish to fire the trees of all these forrests;
    I giue the Sunne a last farewell each euening;
    I curse the fidling finders out of Musicke:
    With enuie I doo hate the loftie mountaines;
    And with despite despise the humble vallies:
    I doo detest night, euening, day, and morning.

    Klaius.

    Curse to my selfe my prayer is, the morning:
    My fire is more, then can be made with forrests;
    My state more base, then are the basest vallies:
    I wish no euenings more to see, each euening;
    Shamed I hate my selfe in sight of mountaines,
    And stoppe mine eares, lest I growe mad with Musicke.

    Strephon.

    For she, whose parts maintainde a perfect musique,
    Whose beautie shin'de more then the blushing morning,
    Who much did passe in state the stately mountaines,
    In straightnes past the Cedars of the forrests,
    Hath cast me wretch into eternall euening,
    By taking her two Sunnes from these darke vallies.

    Klaius.

    For she, to whom compar'd, the Alpes are vallies,
    She, whose lest word brings from the spheares their musique,
    At whose approach the Sunne rose in the euening,
    Who, where she went, bare in her forhead morning,
    Is gone, is gone from these our spoyled forrests,
    Turning to desarts our best pastur'de mountaines.

    Strephon. Klaius.

    These mountaines witnesse shall, so shall these vallies,
    These forrests eke, made wretched by our musique,
    Our morning hymne is this, and song at euening.
    by Sir Phillip Sidney (1554-1586)

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