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    Heaney's poems?

    Hello every body , I'm back!
    with a Q about Mr Heaney!

    Does any one knows what are the poems that contain or give SEAMUS HEANEY's view of what ART is for him or how he does define POETRY in certain imagery>>>>> like his first poem DIGGING'???he puts it clearly that poetry or the role of art in general is a kind of excavation and digging for finds hidden things that grants tha present and the future its continuity. He refers to the process of writing poetry as an archeological process!
    can find anny one that knows other poems that clarifies this or other notions of the poet either it is found implicitly or explicity in his poems?

    thanx

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    Hello, Warm-Ice, welcome to the forum.
    Unfortunately, I do not feel too familiar with a lot of Seamus Heaney's poetry, but I did a bit of browsing, and could not find too much, I admit (mainly because I have read only little of his work).
    This poem, 'Casualty,' has a few mentions of his poetry, but I do not know if it will help:
    Casualty

    I

    He would drink by himself
    And raise a weathered thumb
    Towards the high shelf,
    Calling another rum
    And blackcurrant, without
    Having to raise his voice,
    Or order a quick stout
    By a lifting of the eyes
    And a discreet dumb-show
    Of pulling off the top;
    At closing time would go
    In waders and peaked cap
    Into the showery dark,
    A dole-kept breadwinner
    But a natural for work.
    I loved his whole manner,
    Sure-footed but too sly,
    His deadpan sidling tact,
    His fisherman's quick eye
    And turned observant back.

    Incomprehensible
    To him, my other life.
    Sometimes on the high stool,
    Too busy with his knife
    At a tobacco plug
    And not meeting my eye,
    In the pause after a slug
    He mentioned poetry.
    We would be on our own
    And, always politic
    And shy of condescension,
    I would manage by some trick
    To switch the talk to eels
    Or lore of the horse and cart
    Or the Provisionals.

    But my tentative art
    His turned back watches too:
    He was blown to bits
    Out drinking in a curfew
    Others obeyed, three nights
    After they shot dead
    The thirteen men in Derry.
    PARAS THIRTEEN, the walls said,
    BOGSIDE NIL. That Wednesday
    Everyone held
    His breath and trembled.

    II

    It was a day of cold
    Raw silence, wind-blown
    Surplice and soutane:
    Rained-on, flower-laden
    Coffin after coffin
    Seemed to float from the door
    Of the packed cathedral
    Like blossoms on slow water.
    The common funeral
    Unrolled its swaddling band,
    Lapping, tightening
    Till we were braced and bound
    Like brothers in a ring.

    But he would not be held
    At home by his own crowd
    Whatever threats were phoned,
    Whatever black flags waved.
    I see him as he turned
    In that bombed offending place,
    Remorse fused with terror
    In his still knowable face,
    His cornered outfaced stare
    Blinding in the flash.

    He had gone miles away
    For he drank like a fish
    Nightly, naturally
    Swimming towards the lure
    Of warm lit-up places,
    The blurred mesh and murmur
    Drifting among glasses
    In the gregarious smoke.
    How culpable was he
    That last night when he broke
    Our tribe's complicity?
    'Now, you're supposed to be
    An educated man,'
    I hear him say. 'Puzzle me
    The right answer to that one.'

    III

    I missed his funeral,
    Those quiet walkers
    And sideways talkers
    Shoaling out of his lane
    To the respectable
    Purring of the hearse...
    They move in equal pace
    With the habitual
    Slow consolation
    Of a dawdling engine,
    The line lifted, hand
    Over fist, cold sunshine
    On the water, the land
    Banked under fog: that morning
    I was taken in his boat,
    The screw purling, turning
    Indolent fathoms white,
    I tasted freedom with him.
    To get out early, haul
    Steadily off the bottom,
    Dispraise the catch, and smile
    As you find a rhythm
    Working you, slow mile by mile,
    Into your proper haunt
    Somewhere, well out, beyond...

    Dawn-sniffing revenant,
    Plodder through midnight rain,
    Question me again.
    Ugh, I apologize, as I could only find this, among many skimmed poems. Can anyone else help?

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    ok this is just to remind me to answer this thread when I get back from work this evening Im pretty sure I still have my GCSE notes on heaney and art.

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    thanx

    O thanx Mono 4 ur effort I appreciate that


    smily Nightshade thank u too>>>>

    I appreciate any kind of help from you friends !!

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    I think in Digging he's talking about his father's / grandpa's job like a traditional job. He admires that and he also tries keeping those traditions by writing instead of digging.
    Last edited by Mrs. Dalloway; 03-23-2007 at 02:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaRm-IcE View Post
    Hello every body , I'm back!
    with a Q about Mr Heaney!

    Does any one knows what are the poems that contain or give SEAMUS HEANEY's view of what ART is for him or how he does define POETRY in certain imagery>>>>> like his first poem DIGGING'???he puts it clearly that poetry or the role of art in general is a kind of excavation and digging for finds hidden things that grants tha present and the future its continuity. He refers to the process of writing poetry as an archeological process!
    can find anny one that knows other poems that clarifies this or other notions of the poet either it is found implicitly or explicity in his poems?

    thanx
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    As a child, they could not keep me from wells
    And old pumps with buckets and windlasses.
    I loved the dark drop, the trapped sky, the smells
    Of waterweed, fungus and dank moss.


    One, in a brickyard, with a rotted board top.
    I savoured the rich crash when a bucket
    Plummeted down at the end of a rope.
    So deep you saw no reflection in it.


    A shallow one under a dry stone ditch
    Fructified like any aquarium.
    When you dragged out long roots from the soft mulch
    A white face hovered over the bottom.


    Others had echoes, gave back your own call
    With a clean new music in it. And one
    Was scaresome, for there, out of ferns and tall
    Foxgloves, a rat slapped across my reflection.


    Now, to pry into roots, to finger slime,
    To stare, big-eyed Narcissus, into some spring
    Is beneath all adult dignity. I rhyme
    To see myself, to set the darkness echoing.
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    Would anybody be interested if i started a discussion thread on Heaney?
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    its a very good idea. I'm sure a few people would join in.
    "Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
    W.B.Yeats

    "If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
    Artemins Fowl and the Lost Colony by Eoin Colfer


    my poems-please comment Forum Rules

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    The Nobel Prize in Literature 1995"for works of lyrical beauty and ethical depth, which exalt everyday miracles and the living past"

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    http://almaz.com/nobel/literature/1995a.html A warehouse of great information about this poet. quasimodo1

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    I didn't know that! Thanks quasi!
    I declare after all there is no enjoyment like reading! How much sooner one tires of anything than of a book! When I have a house of my own, I shall be miserable if I have not an excellent library.


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    Heaney was our 4th nobel prize winner for lit. and is well deserving!
    "Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
    W.B.Yeats

    "If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
    Artemins Fowl and the Lost Colony by Eoin Colfer


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    Quote Originally Posted by Niamh View Post
    Heaney was our 4th nobel prize winner for lit. and is well deserving!
    Are you Irish, Niamh?
    "De primer van foradar-me les orelles
    i de llavors ençà duc arracades.
    No prengueu aquest bosc per una alzina."

    Maria Mercè Marçal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Dalloway View Post
    Are you Irish, Niamh?
    Yeah i'm Irish. Born and raised in Dublin.
    "Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
    W.B.Yeats

    "If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
    Artemins Fowl and the Lost Colony by Eoin Colfer


    my poems-please comment Forum Rules

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    Poetry by Seamus Heaney

    Lightenings viii
    The annals say: when the monks of Clonmacnoise
    Were all at prayers inside the oratory
    A ship appeared above them in the air.

    The anchor dragged along behind so deep
    It hooked itself into the altar rails
    And then, as the big hull rocked to a standstill,

    A crewman shinned and grappled down the rope
    And struggled to release it. But in vain.
    'This man can't bear our life here and will drown,'

    The abbot said, 'unless we help him.' So
    They did, the freed ship sailed, and the man climbed back
    Out of the marvellous as he had known it.



    Seamus Heaney – Selected Poems by Seamus Heaney
    From "Seeing Things", 1991

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