No, no. I was answering Ekissa on the writer, see? Capybara's are those giant pests which are getting closer, as far in as Martinsville, VA, too close for mem you know? The beavers do enough damage around here, and I like them! Ah, my graphics, hee-- I have smiley.com and I download the images, upload to photobucket and copy the shoutcuts, saves time, oui?
Some of us laugh
Some of us cry
Some of us smoke
Some of us lie
But it's all just the way
that we cope with our lives...
lalalalalalala...la...la......la?
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Pen, photobucket is a great timesaver, isn't it?
Of course we have some smilies here too, but one would have to "go advanced" instead of "post quick reply" to use them, no?
a..b...c...d...e...f...?
See, anything can be a question in the questions only thread if you slap a question mark on the end of it, la?
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"I cannot hear what you say because of the ------- of what you are"
HUH? emm.... dumdumdumdumdum......?
"Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
W.B.Yeats
"If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
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Would the opening post of this thread provide any clarification?
A link, a link, my kingdom for a link...?
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You talking to me? or Quasi? Can I keep going Lalalalala until i figure out something worthwhile questioning? or even have a lalala dumdumdum conversation?
"Come away O human child!To the waters of the wild, With a faery hand in hand, For the worlds more full of weeping than you can understand."
W.B.Yeats
"If it looks like a Dwarf and smells like a Dwarf, then it's probably a Dwarf (or a latrine wearing dungarees)"
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My question: Is non-verbal thought a possibility, (I think yes), ? If we think in words then is our thought limited by our vocabulary? If so, do people with more words available to them have more potential for thought? Is meditation thought? quasimodo1
How can deaf people think other than non-verbally?
Am I mistaken, or do quite a large percentage of deaf people read and while the sound may elude them, the mental picture of the word or sentence is still there. Still, didn't consider that one.
How is thinking of a picture thinking verbally? And, how can blind and death people think other than non-verbally?
I am not sure I follow that sentiment, could you articulate more?
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Hey, I knew a deaf student who got her AAS degree the same time I got mine, and she could talk, so she had to think verbally, no? And she had an aide with her who both used AMSL and slow lip movement to help her understand the Prof., so she had to think verbally for that as well, right? I could talk to her as I used to work in a very noisy wood-working factory, and you basically had to slow lip read, As we understood each other, she though verbally or I have telepathy, and which is more likely?
Some of us laugh
Some of us cry
Some of us smoke
Some of us lie
But it's all just the way
that we cope with our lives...
To ellaborate on what deaf people conceptualize of words, if that is the question, let me say that first I'm no expert, only having read and watched some documentaries on the subject. I guess for maximum information, Gauludet (spelling?) University which accomadates deaf studies would know for sure; nevertheless, the sound of of word is not all of it's essence. The sight, meaning and context/ not to mention lip reading and other resources for the deaf like perhaps TTY allow them the same access to words, concepts, meanings, connotations, denotations that they use for interaction with the speaking world. Therefore, thinking in words, or word-concepts might vary but strictly speaking, i wouldn't call it completely non-verbal thought. Verbal, by definition, implies sound and meaning but meaning is all. My real question is not so specialized. The mind-set in question is fully articulated humans thinking (maybe just feeling) in non-verbal ways. If we question what thinking is non-verbal...I percieve things like instincual reaction, joy, rage, even analysis by way of the "mind's eye" that one might classify as non-verbal thought. The crux of my question really is, though, if we think in words then the extent of vocabulary a given person has might be an amplification or reduction of thoughtful abilities. So; if our vocabulary is the resource for verbal thought then it also is the limitation of verbal thought. It is a question for some linguists and maybe the answer is allready accepted academic "reality", but for myself...still a question. quasimodo1
Last edited by quasimodo1; 05-20-2007 at 02:06 PM. Reason: spelling
Sorry, Niamh, and I think you can keep going lalala if that is what you feel like, no?Originally Posted by Niamh
I only put the opening post link in case people didn't realize that the only rule of the thread is that every response must be phrased in the form of a question, ok?
Sorry if I offended anybody....? I'm a jerk, you know?
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