The Power of Beauty

[Lote-Tree]

In the context of Human Beauty:

-Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder
-Beauty is skin deep
-True Beauty is what is inside.

Perhaps that these words were invented by "ugly" people to make themselves feel better because we all want to be beautiful?

Is Beauty really in the Eye of the Beholder?

Agenlina Jolie - everyone will agree is a Beautiful Person.

Beauty therefore is something that verifies itself? That beauty has it's own self-verification mechanisms?

We humans have always been fascinated with Beauty. We are exhilerated by it. Entranced by it and obssesed by it. We want it. We want to posses it. We spend thousands on things that promises us to make us beautiful and we spend thousands more on watching the body beautiful in action in cinemas. We buy books that conjure up beautiful people for us etc.

So given the choice I think we would all want to be beautiful.

What say you?

[Moira]

Well, beauty is a big issue and we are all fascinated by it, some more than others ........

Is Beauty really in the Eye of the Beholder? It is, i truly believe this.
If you are refering strictly to physical appearence ..... it's easier for us to agree who is beautiful and who isn't. And we do agree on Angelina Jolie. But you will see that there will be different opinions, something that might appeal to me, might not to you .........
For example i like dark or brown hair people more than blonds ...... and you might go with blond hair....

But there are people who possess a certain carisma that makes them more beautiful than some that have just great physical appearence.

[Lote-Tree]

Well, beauty is a big issue and we are all fascinated by it, some more than others ........

Aye Lassie - a Thing of Beauty is Joy Forever :-)

If you are refering strictly to physical appearence ..... it's easier for us to agree who is beautiful and who isn't. And we do agree on Angelina Jolie.

That is what I meant when I say Beauty has a self-verification mechanism.

But you will see that there will be different opinions, something that might appeal to me, might not to you .........

Yes, we may have opinions when we make comparisons. But Angelina Jolie would be still beautiful in her own right - ie Beauty Stands on it's own.

But there are people who possess a certain carisma that makes them more beautiful than some that have just great physical appearence.

Yes. That is too.

And as Cinderalla says:

"Do you love me because I am Beautiful or
I am beautiful because you love me"...

But Moira would we choose to be beautiful if we had a choice? :-)

[Moira]

If that would be a choice of course we would all choose to be beautiful ....

But that is not the case....
And think about a world full of beautiful people only. Wouldn't that be boring?


Yes, Cinderella was right, and love does bring a certain glow to someone's face and makes it more beautiful than it usualy is and that's just the beauty of love....

[nps_marina]

Hey, when does Cinderella say that? (I like it, though).

I believe that, truly, you see people and hence find them attractive- we walk down the street, go by some hot hunk, and think 'ahoy!'.

Or some hot hunkess.

But the thing is (apart from the fact that I might think this or that man handsome, and you might not, and vice versa), after you meet the hot hunk or hunkess, if you happen to dislike their insides, you'll stop seeing the beauty in them. That's why I think 'it's what's inside that counts'.

So, beauty is in the eye of the beholder not only because your likes and mine are different (although there are certainly some major beautiful people who we will all agree upon, leaving aside the fact that perhaps and even though we might think them beautiful, we don't have a crush on them); but because the beholder, in learning about the person's personality, sees something else (better or worse) than the rest of people see...

I also think it works the other way around ('ugly' people are made beautiful by their beautiful personality). The problem then is you have to get someone to talk to us, first... That's why we all want to be beautiful.

[manolia]

Well, beauty is a big issue and we are all fascinated by it, some more than others ........

Is Beauty really in the Eye of the Beholder? It is, i truly believe this.
If you are refering strictly to physical appearence ..... it's easier for us to agree who is beautiful and who isn't. And we do agree on Angelina Jolie. But you will see that there will be different opinions, something that might appeal to me, might not to you .........
For example i like dark or brown hair people more than blonds ...... and you might go with blond hair....

But there are people who possess a certain carisma that makes them more beautiful than some that have just great physical appearence.

I agree with you Moira. Beauty is subjective. With my female friends we always had a hard time to agree on who is beautiful and who isn't . I usually prefered blond guys. Moreover in many cases people consider as beautiful what they don't have. It is very common for people to prefer straight hair when they have curly or blond when they have black etc. I must add that beauty has to do with epoch also. What i mean is that in rennaisance ages the ideal of beauty were plumb women (the extra kilos was an indication of health and good nourishment) while now there is a (almost racistic) tendency for very thin persons. Excuse my spelling errors. I'll edit later

[Moira]

Hey, when does Cinderella say that? (I like it, though).

I believe that, truly, you see people and hence find them attractive- we walk down the street, go by some hot hunk, and think 'ahoy!'.

Or some hot hunkess.

But the thing is (apart from the fact that I might think this or that man handsome, and you might not, and vice versa), after you meet the hot hunk or hunkess, if you happen to dislike their insides, you'll stop seeing the beauty in them. That's why I think 'it's what's inside that counts'.

So, beauty is in the eye of the beholder not only because your likes and mine are different (although there are certainly some major beautiful people who we will all agree upon, leaving aside the fact that perhaps and even though we might think them beautiful, we don't have a crush on them); but because the beholder, in learning about the person's personality, sees something else (better or worse) than the rest of people see...

I also think it works the other way around ('ugly' people are made beautiful by their beautiful personality). The problem then is you have to get someone to talk to us, first... That's why we all want to be beautiful.

Very well said, i totally agree that if you happen to dislike someone's character or personality their beautiful physical appearance doesn't seem so beautiful anymore. And there are things that come from inside that can render a person beautiful or ugly ... it depends.

[Lote-Tree]

I usually prefered blond guys.

But that is more of a preference than what beauty is?

Angelina Jolie would be beautiful regardless if she has blonde or black hair?

[Moira]

Yes Lote, but if you like dark haired girls more than blond ones you will always say that Angelina is more beautiful than let's say Claudia Schiffer .......
Your likes and dislikes will always be part of your chosing something over something else....

[Lote-Tree]

Yes Lote, but if you like dark haired girls more than blond ones you will always say that Angelina is more beautiful than let's say Claudia Schiffer .......Your likes and dislikes will always be part of your chosing something over something else....

Everyone agrees that Angelina Jolie is Beautiful. Did we based that judgement on the colour of her hair or something else?

[Moira]

I agree with you Moira. Beauty is subjective. With my female friends we always had a hard time to agree on who is beautiful and who isn't . I usually prefered blond guys. Moreover in many cases people consider as beautiful what they don't have. It is very common for people to prefer straight hair when they have curly or blond when they have black etc. I must add that beauty has to do with epoch also. What i mean is that in rennaisance ages the ideal of beauty were plumb women (the extra kilos was an indication of health and good nourishment) while now there is a (almost racistic) tendency for very thin persons. Excuse my spelling errors. I'll edit later

Hi Manolia, good to see you again.

Yes, we can agree on who is beautiful and who isn't up to one point.
From there we are subjective in our choices and yes i always envyed curly hair.

[manolia]

But that is more of a preference than what beauty is?

Angelina Jolie would be beautiful regardless if she has blonde or black hair?

I can't answer to your question satisfactorilly, since i believe that beauty has to do with preference, or rather beauty IS preference

Hi Manolia, good to see you again.

Yes, we can agree on who is beautiful and who isn't up to one point.
From there we are subjective in our choices and yes i always envyed curly hair.

Nice too see you too

[Moira]

Everyone agrees that Angelina Jolie is Beautiful. Did we based that judment on the colour of her hair or something else?

I don't think everyone agrees she is beautiful. You do, i do and a lot of other people do ....... but i am sure there are some people who do not find her attractive maybe because they don't like some features (let's say a full big mouth..... could't think of anything else now, i like her.

[Lote-Tree]

I can't answer to your question satisfactorilly, since i believe that beauty has to do with preference, or rather beauty IS preference

If that is so then we would not agree that Angelina Jolie is beautiful since you like Blondes?

There must be something else that says Angelina Jolie is Beautiful regardless of preferences?

I don't think everyone agrees she is beautiful. You do, i do and a lot of other people do ....... but i am sure there are some people who do not find her attractive maybe because they don't like some features (let's say a full big mouth..... could't think of anything else now, i like her.

Yes. Not everyone. But a lot of people.

So it must be something more than a preferences?

How about we find things beautiful because they tend to posses a degree of symmetry?

[Moira]

Like what? You tell me ..........

Don't we all have our personal standards that we use when judging something? Some of them are general and are the same for everybody but there are others that maybe make sense only to us.

Yes. Not everyone. But a lot of people.

So it must be something more than a preferences?

How about we find things beautiful because they tend to posses a degree of symmetry?

Symmetry and logic don't really apply to beauty.
We can say about an apple that is beautiful because it has a perfect shape and is flawless but you cannot become facinated by that apple because of that.


It's just my opinion............