"Certain individuals"? I'd say every individual here is getting better with every round. That's no anomaly. And what makes you guess that practice makes perfect? Of course it does..lol
"Certain individuals"? I'd say every individual here is getting better with every round. That's no anomaly. And what makes you guess that practice makes perfect? Of course it does..lol
My hide hides the heart inside
Then again we don't always know what we are doing even when we think we do. This is how practice makes "perfect".. Keep doing what you think is right until you find out the actual way of doing it. The whole object of being a "perfect" writer is writing the way you do until it gets better and better. And technically there is no "perfect", because the writing you think is "perfect" is just going to keep getting better the more you practice. So practice always exists but perfect is the false notion we feel when we believe that practice is no longer needed, which we term perfect. But practice is always needed so perfectness is never sustained.... Writing is all about trial and error so no "certain" individual is going to advance, but mostly everyone who engages any form of avid writing.
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Well this is my thoughts of that matter. I don't intend on debating or anything because firstly this isn't the topic to do it and secondly, I don't want to, but I just wanted to clarify my view.
Last edited by Adolescent09; 03-20-2007 at 06:50 AM.
My hide hides the heart inside
You’re reasoning is moving in circles. Not everyone knows what they’re doing. I’m not trying to ruin this thread by arguing with you.
I feel that encouraging people should be the goal of any poetry circle. Myself, I see improvements in everyone's writings as time goes by. To say that there are some here that do not know what they are doing seems a bit harsh, KT. Every poet has to start as a neophyte, get their proverbial feet wet, catch a few criticisms along the way, pay their dues, and improve. Not even Shakespeare came from his mother's womb spouting the lovely prose and poetry that made him immortal. He undoubtably had his flubs and periods of writers block.
Ah, but if we write the words about our friends
And say they have no clue what they do—
The things our enemies shall say may be without end,
And time, alone, the judge of which is true.
Wisdom from the Dragon![]()
Some of us laugh
Some of us cry
Some of us smoke
Some of us lie
But it's all just the way
that we cope with our lives...
Nicely put, Pen.![]()
LET THERE BE LIGHT
"Love follows knowledge." – St. Catherine of Siena
My literature blog: http://ashesfromburntroses.blogspot.com/
Well then it’s harsh. I’m sorry. Do you want me to lie? I don’t see improvement in every person’s poetry.
Given the above post, it looks as though ktd is channeling the brutally honest spirit of a certain Unnamable former member.![]()
"In rime sparse il suono/ di quei sospiri ond' io nudriva 'l core/ in sul mio primo giovenile errore"~ Francesco Petrarca
"Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can."~ Jane Austen
You'd have to be "perfect" to make a statement like that. You're no one to decide who's getting better and who isn't, frankly because all of the poetry here is good. You say you don't want to argue but you post offensive stuff like this and say "I'm sorry"? Get real. You're just asking for others to argue with you.
And...my extremely simple reasoning makes perfectly good sense once you get past your confounded ego.
Last edited by Adolescent09; 03-20-2007 at 12:06 PM.
My hide hides the heart inside
Errr... could we get back to the poems?
"To Errr... is human, to forgive is fine."
se non e vero, e molto ben'trovato
What? It is called an opinion. You’re not welcome to it. Frankly, I’m glad I have my own judgment on which poets are making progress. “Perfect”? No. I have an opinion. You have an opinion. You are just taking offense to mine because…well I don’t know why? What does this say about you, your work?
oh my goodness... just stop arguing... both of you.
lets get back to the thread shall we?
The~Female~Mind
In Memory of my father
Michael A. Botten
02/18/1975 - 01/09/2007
Thank you!![]()
se non e vero, e molto ben'trovato
Here is my entry:
Fundamentally we do not exist.
Compare Nature in our being:
the light which spirals in
to shape our hands shapes
the motion of Her grace,
and spills dawn, and noon, and evening light
into our bodies, shaping, Her radiance,
and whirls our legs, in stars, in bright stars, Her elegance;
and our looks, like blocks projecting:
black black black black black