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    Part Four. The final part!

    "23. In Blood Canticle Lestat insults all Notherners saying a comment like 'He was from the South and Southerners know how to treat blacks. Not like intolerant yankees.' This not only implies that an African American can't be considered a Southerner but also that all people from the North are racist. Ummm... Lestat was involved with two girls from the North. Gretchen from Washington and Dora from New York. Oh, yes, and Akasha was African and 'his' little comment was also demeaning to Africans. Anne Rice told one of my friends she wrote that because of some racists she met while visiting the north while on tour for Memnoch The Devil. What does that have to do with Lestat's opinion? He didn't come across racists in his stay in New York.

    24. Lestat feeds on killers who feel no remorse. Rowan Mayfair murdered her daughter because of what her father was and how she was concieved. Rowan considered her a freak even though the girl was saving her life and nursing her back to health. Rowan shot her three times. And even after this she still wanted a Taltos specimen (her INNOCENT daughter's species) to dissect. Yet somehow he falls in love with this woman in Blood Canticle and he's killing vampires who just happen to enter his territory. There's something wrong this this picture. It seems to me she'd be his ideal victim, not lover.

    25. Anne Rice based Louis on herself, Lestat was based on Stan, Anne based Rowan on herself but by Blood Canticle she says she is the voice of Lestat. No wonder he's so changed! The Lestat we love was Stan Rice.
    Drastic change in personality counts as an inconsistancy when it's abrupt and happens over night. She claims the personality change is a result of what happened in Memnoch The Devil. This isn't true. He was still rebelling against it, still behaving like himself. He wasn't even that bad in Blackwood Farm, which takes place a night before Blood Canticle. The change is literally over night.

    26. In Memnoch The Devil Louis requires a magnifying glass to view the details of illustrations drawn by mortals. I know Louis is weakest of the vampires but he still is supposed to have eyes stronger than a mortal. What happened to all his talk of vampire eyes?

    27. In Merrick Lestat said It requires 'that you take from me and that I give to you' when discribing a blood exchange to Louis. Now if you take from Lestat and he gives to you... That's the same thing! It only discribes the part where Louis drinks from him!

    28. Personality inconsistancy: Marius went from the kindly father figure character to a whining, child-like character in Blood and Gold. Not to mention the S and M whippings in The Vampire Armand when in The Vampire Lestat Armand told Lestat Marius would never harm him. Now he's coming off as a pervert. Also he blames Lestat for Akasha rising. How could he? It was Akasha who told Lestat her name when Marius took Lestat to the island. It was Akasha who opened the tabernacle and planted the idea in his head to play Nicholas' violin for her. And it was Marius who had Lestat's music videos video taped for her to watch yet he blames Lestat for her rising? I can't believe he's become so illogical so quickly.

    29. In Memnoch The Devil Lestat made a vow never to kill anyone, human or vampire, ever again. But by Blood Canticle he's developed Armand's personality traits in that he kills rogues and rule breakers who need guidance even when they beg for their lives. Anne Rice has forgotten this vow."

    30. In The Vampire Lestat Marius said he met Pandora when she came to him, as a grown woman, recalling a past life of being a vampire and begging to be a vampire again. But by the book Pandora it's claimed that he knew her as a child and even tried to have her betrothed to him.

    31. It's not exactly a mistake but in the Interview with the vampire movie Daniel (the reporter) Louis says that Daniel is older than him. So this means he has to be 25 or older. Yet in the novel The queen of the damned he's only 32, ten or so years after the Interview. I know it is possible he was 21 or 22 when the Interview took place but I just think he's older than that.

    32. In Blood and Gold Marius claims vampires to be immune to dirt yet the Satanic vampires under Les Innocents in The Vampire Lestat were filthy and Lestat is quoted as saying Eleni would be pretty if she would be forced to stand undre a water fall to wash the dirt off of her. Also, Marius himself was filthy aftre being trapped in the ice in The queen of the damned novel. And Lestat was filthy when Marius pulled him out of the Earth in The Vampire Lestat novel.
    I'd like to thank Kirsty0775 of The Internet movie data base for adding this mistake for me. I had known of it but let it slip my mind when writing the list.

    33. In Blood and Gold Maharet takes the eyes of a fellow vampire yet in every chronicle befor this, for supposedly six-thousand-years she would never take the eyes of any vampire, thinking it too cruel and disloyal to do that to her own kind. There is really no explaination for this change of heart.

    34. In Blood and gold we find out the chains that held Lestat in Memnoch The Devil had Maharet's hair woven into it. Are we really to believe just because she's the oldest vampire that her hair is indestructable? Wasn't it plausable enough that heavy chains held Lestat? Also if her hair is indestructable how did she cut it to weave it into the chains?

    35. In The Vampire Lestat Armand says he was too young to know the name of his own country. By The Vampire Armand novel it's implied he was in his mid teens when Marius claimed him. Why the abrupt change?

    36. Drastic personality changes in Marius. Up until about Tale of the Body thief we see Marius as the kindly father figure who called Lestat the damned creature. Yet in The Vampire Armand when re-told a story told to us in The Vampire Lestat it's implied that Marius physically whipped Armand and was into S and M with young boys. There is no such mention of this in the earlier books. Then by Blood and Gold he's a whining child in that he blames Lestat for things Lestat could not be accountable for. Marius is the one who took Lestat to the island. Akasha is the one who planted the idea in Lestat's head to play Nicki's violin for her. She opened the tabernacle for him. Then he, himself, was going to play Lestat's music videos for them and yet when Akasha rose to Lestat's music videos Marius blames Lestat. It was all Akasha's choosing. Why would the wise and patient Marius suddenly act like a child and not think logically? Why would his life in the past suddenly be described differently from The Vampire Armand on ward? He, like Lestat, and Maharet are basically behaving like their own opposites.

    37. If older vampires turned to dust in Memnoch The Devil how did Louis survive going into the sun in Merrick without an infusion of more powerful blood to begin with?"
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    The Historian? My friend read it and she loves it! basically a girl goes on a quest to find out about the truth of Vlad The Impaler (The true Dracula)
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    They have their exits and their entrances;
    And one man in his time plays many parts,
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    The Historian is a great book that focuses on European history and cities, all in reference to Vlad the Impaler. It has a new perspective on Dracula that is more intellectual than violent and this might make some readers disappointed. It is overall a quality book that makes the reader want to visit Europe and all its great cities.

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    How could this thread go on this long without anyone mentioning Carmilla? Excellent short vampire story.

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    I have never heard about this story. Please, tell me more!
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    Right, metal134! LeFanu definitely deserves a place in this thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexei View Post
    I have never heard about this story. Please, tell me more!
    It was written by J.S. LeFanu and predates Dracula. It is about, and how do I put this delicatley, a female vampire of the Ellen Degeneres persuasuion. It is rather tame, sexuality is merely hinted at, but for the time, it was quite sensational. In any case, it's a very good story.

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    I have something new for this topic.

    Blood Tears. That’s my new obsession, or at least part of it, because this is just the beginning of one interesting book trilogy. The legacy of the Dark Kind by Raven Dane. I finished it just yesterday evening, but I didn’t write because I was still too fascinated to share my thoughts.
    Where to start from? Ah, yes, this is a vampire book and actually a really good one. Vampires here are definitely different form Anne Rice’s but they are not less interesting and fascinating at all. At contrary they are simply gorgeous. Creatures like vicious predators and still marvelously beautiful and with great sense of honor Raven’s vampires are extremely bewitching and real. As I have already mentioned the conception is quite different – her vampires are another race – the Dark Kind, witch in its origin has nothing in common with humans. Even when they are less human than Anne Rice’s characters, they are still very distant from Count Dracula and the old myths and ideas strongly connected with the garlic and the crucifixes.
    As for the plot line – it is really interesting and intriguing. The action is set up in the time of the World War II (with the exception of the beginning it is a decade before the war. The whole action is between 1925 and 1946) in Europe mainly (we have some exceptions here too – there are some countries which do not actually exist). There are quite known elements, the book remind me of The Historian, very little of Dracula (in my opinion the resemblances are insignificant, may be mainly in the place of the action) and of the Hellsing manga.
    It is unbelievably enjoyable reading and I warmly recommend it. If you have already read it, I will be glad to discuss it with you.
    These are some sites I found; I think they could give you good idea of the book.
    http://www.bloodtears.co.uk/
    http://legacy-of-the-dark-kind.blogs...1_archive.html
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    have you ever read any of the Anne rice series.... my favorite is Blackwood Farm.. but i'm more of a werewolf person>>Lycanthropy is my thing i enjoy reading
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    Has anyone mentioned the "Necroscope" series by Brian Lumley?? I've read these books a few years ago and i found them very nice. Do try them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimaHybrid View Post
    have you ever read any of the Anne rice series.... my favorite is Blackwood Farm.. but i'm more of a werewolf person>>Lycanthropy is my thing i enjoy reading
    I am currently reading Anne Rice's Vampire chronicles. There are really good, i am on Memnoch the Devil. Althought i am trying to read them in the most appropriate order i have read Blackwood Farm and Pandora first, Pandora was the first Chronicle I read and after that Blackwood Farm. I like BF, it's interesting, but in my oppinion it is not as good as the very first books .
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    "Lilith's Dream" and "The Hunger" are decent, both by the same author in whose name escapes me...but i like vampires and such, but not to big on the constant erotic theme in the literature

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    I've just checked it on Amazon, the author is Whitley Strieber. I shall try to find them and read them.
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    George R R Martin wrote an excellent vampire novel that takes place on the Mississippi River and riverboats. However the title escapes me.

    I also loved Kim Newman's vampire novels Anno Dracula and The Bloody Red Baron set during Jack the Ripper's reign of terror in London and WWI featuring Baron Manfred von Richthofen (the Red Baron) as one of Dracula's vampires. I believe these two are still out of print.

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    any books out there about Werewolves or that has werewolves in it??? i know its a Vampire thread i was just curious cuz i'm more of a Lycanthrope person
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