Meat Eaters Club

[B-Mental]

Three cheers for Virgil...., "Yay MEAT! YAY MEAT! YAY MEAT!

Two thumbs up Virgil. I used to date a veghead once, *cringes*. Nothing sadder than a vegetarian that eats the same crud over and over. Poor veggies. The only thing good about it is I came up with my favorite recipe, a black beans and rice dish. Makes a mean quesadilla. I make it with Beef, Chicken, Pork, Venison, Elk, Duck, and Goose. The best was the venison and wild goose quesadilla, *droools*

[kathycf]

Fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes have lots of variety. A vegetarian can have all sorts of things to eat and is not limited to the "same old crud", just as the person who sits down to steak every night of his or her life could be said to have an extremely monotonous diet. I hope that we as a community find the things we have in common with each other and not focus on our differences.

Now, I am going to go off and eat chocolate. Yay, chocolate.

[B-Mental]

Umm wrong thread Kathy you want the "If it grows shoot it club"

[dramasnot6]

Umm wrong thread Kathy you want the "If it grows shoot it club"

Wouldn't that mean ALL foods, animal and plant alike? Everything grows.

[Madhuri]

Another thread started....Where are we heading towards....

Virgil, I havent read all you posts, but here is something that I have to say:

There is nothing to be applauded in being a vegan or a meat eater, its just a way of living some people have adopted.

However, I do think, that being a vegeratian, by default attaches some goodness to this way of eating, which I think is because it does not involve 'killing' animals. This is what I think you are trying to say, that being a vegan doesnt mean goodness, which I understand. The word 'Kill,' is what makes most people think that being a non-vegetarian is not so good (I think that is the primary reason).

But, but, but....I dont not think that being a vegetarian will make anybody healthy, neither will being a meat eater, its 'eating right' that will ensure good health. I somehow have this notion (I could be wrong though), that eating a certain quantity of meat will give protein equal to two or three times the legumes, which could also mean that the person would have to eat legumes the whole day to get enough protein. I wonder if there will be any space left in the stomach to accomodate more food.

Being a Hindu does not mean that person is a vegetarian, it will be determined by the Caste to which he/she belongs. Not all Hindus are vegetarians, and this caste distinction is increasingly becoming less, so you'll find meat-eaters and vegans in all Hindu communities.

All those who have become vegetarians by choice, have had the opportunity to become one. I think that the colder nations, where vegetation is less has cheaper meat and costlier vegetables, and also that meat is easily available, that predominantly they are meat-eaters. But this has changed (I think), now, everything is available in all seasons all through the year. that is why people can now choose either ways, if they like. Also, becoming a vegan should not be because eating meat is 'unhealthy' which I think is not. Eating right amount of everything and exercising is what will make a person fit.

So, just be happy that we have enough to eat and what all we want to eat.

With that note -- I have no recipe to post here...Oh, but I do know how to boil eggs and make an omlette . If anyone is interested I can post it here.....but plzzz, dont 'kill' me if it doesnt taste very well.... Btw, I can boil eggs better...

Happy Meat eating everyone.....

I shall go and have some chocolates, now....and then perhaps some Palak Paneer...

[Nightshade]

ok low fat doesnt need to be veggie, Im not veggie myself but Im soory Virg, by your own definition your slamming them and thats hardly fair, My mums a veggie becasue she doesnt like the taste of meat( although she will eat pigeon and small amounts when were visiting in egypt so as not to offend people.) One of the women at work has been a veggie since she was 5 or 6 I asked her why and she says when she sees a pice of meat all she sees is blood and veins and the idea of eating it makes her sick. I dont understand or pretend to understand how anyone cant love taste of meat, but at the same I understand that people dont and that there are people who dont like sprouts, or onions, or spinach or carrots or beetroot or anything I adore.

Now I couldnt be a veggie but either way like maddie I dont think either really is healthy its eating right that is the point.

I might just add noone ever got mad-cow disease by being a veggie! And I wont even get into the whys and ifs about certain types of meat.

[Koa]

point 1: this forum is getting mad... one thread is started, another one appears in contrast (eg boys VS girls), and they all say the same things...

point 2: I am not a veggie and for a few things I agree with Virg, but I'm not sure which is healthier. I guess everything in a balanced quantity is the healthy option.

point 3: as I said before, I met a lot of people saying "I'm a veggie, but I didn't like meat before anyway"... well that's ok, but there's nothing to "admire" in that case, it's not a ethical choice or anything. I hate cheese, but there's no diet or category that would allow me to say I don't eat cheese and be "respected". Of course I respect choices etc, but it's not like doing it for deeper reasons or religious reasons. Which I can't understand either, but if you've grown up in that religion, what you or not eat is a part of your habits. Brits find it weird that horse meat is eaten, while it's perfectly normal in Italy...

I'm not sure about cold places having less veggies, in my mind it is such a Northern thing... I remember when iw as studying German and I read an article about how fashionable, or common anyway, it was for German teenagers to be veggies. I had never met a veggie in real life up to then. The first one I've ever met was at uni, and the funny thing is that she had lived in Germany during her teens, which in my mind got linked to that article though Germany might have nothing to do with that. After her, I've only met one more veggie in real life. Besides people claiming to be veggies and then eating fish or other meat stuff, which was just showing they simply didnt like meat.

[Nightshade]

Well yes and I suppose there are those veggies who do it for ethical reason , I dont really understand that but then again you could almost say its part of my religion to accept eating meat. But part of the regulations of our eating meat is that it is humanly reared and slaughtered ( and our definiton of humanly killed does not include the bolt or the injection.) And acttually it makes a very clear differance in taste which I noticed when we couldnt get Hala meat and were eating normal supermarket meat.
But its like eggs it doesnt matter that I can really afford it if I bye eggs they are free range organic not battery hens, which is just evil.

[Koa]

Oh about eggs... another crazy thing about the UK. I go to the supermarket, and there are 45 kinds of eggs I thought eggs were eggs...

Oh I've always been meaning to ask, ehm, what does Halal exactly mean? that it's reared that way you said? or that it is cut in a certain way? (or maybe that's jewish..). I'm really ignorant of these things, but now I see it written everywhere...

[Nightshade]

ACtually both, it has to be reaerd a certain way and then slaughter very ver fast by sliting its throat with a very very sharp blade, in a clean room( as in no blood all over the place) on its own so it cant witness or be witnessed dying by any other future meat, so that they are not afraid or aware of what is about to happen to them. Umm what else... oh yes They have to be slaughtered in the name of the one God and not any other, and they have to be cleaned and the blood drained a certain way.

Halal acttualy means allowed or accepitable religiously.its the opposite of Haraam that means banned ( but the problem with this word is there are many many different words routing in this that youcant show the differance in wriiten english becasue the ifferance is so slight.

Thats about it.

[dramasnot6]

Just to point out The Veggie thread has no intention of establishing a "superior" diet or trying to " I believe it is less healthy to be a strict vegetarian. And I'll prove that as this thread continues." I am in no way in competition or anything and respect everything everyone's lifestyles, eating habbits, EVERYTHING. I AM NOT establishing a holier than thou attitude, i am NOT stating anything is better then anything else. I'm sorry iof anyone was offended or misunderstanding.

[Niamh]

i once lived with two vegies. i ate healthily back then as we use to do communal cooking. Once a week i'd cook for myself and have some lamb or chicken. I Always took into consideration that they dont eat meat and always did yummy stirfrys with fried rice. I was off dairy for a while at that point so no cheese etc for me, just soya products. You could always be sure that one of them would forget this and put dairy in the dinner they cooked. My friend Mikaela thought it was very inconsiderate if them.

We had a christmas party in the house and i made mini chicken fajitas and mini vegie fajitas woth soya curd for everyone and labeled them. My Housemate Eve thought it would be ok to write a sign saying, 'this is the flesh of a thousand rotting carcases' and put it in front of the chicken ones. They were still eaten though but i didnt think it was nice that she tried to make people not eat them especially after i'd worked hard making them.

Personally i think we should all respect each others beliefs and not mock one person for being a vegie or one for eating meat.

[dramasnot6]

i once lived with two vegies. i ate healthily back then as we use to do communal cooking. Once a week i'd cook for myself and have some lamb or chicken. I Always took into consideration that they dont eat meat and always did yummy stirfrys with fried rice. I was off dairy for a while at that point so no cheese etc for me, just soya products. You could always be sure that one of them would forget this and put dairy in the dinner they cooked. My friend Mikaela thought it was very inconsiderate if them.

We had a christmas party in the house and i made mini chicken fajitas and mini vegie fajitas for everyone and labeled them. My Housemate Eve thought it would be ok to write a sign saying, 'this is the flesh of a thousand rotting carcases' and put it in front of the chicken ones. They'll were still eaten though but i didnt think it was nice that she tried to make people not eat them especially after i'd worked hard making them.

Personally i think we should all respect each others beliefs and not mock one person for being a vegie or one for eating meat.

Really well put Niam! I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE! By no means was the veggie thread or do i haveany beliefs to "mock" meateaters or make them inferior in terms of health, morals or anything else.

[Madhuri]

Just to point out The Veggie thread has no intention of establishing a "superior" diet or trying to " I believe it is less healthy to be a strict vegetarian. And I'll prove that as this thread continues." I am in no way in competition or anything and respect everything everyone's lifestyles, eating habbits, EVERYTHING. I AM NOT establishing a holier than thou attitude, i am NOT stating anything is better then anything else. I'm sorry iof anyone was offended or misunderstanding.

Drame, dont feel so guilty, you must have read everyone post and you'll see that no one is trying to prove anything is superior. So, just relax, have a litchie and read on.....pass on the fruit bowl to me as well.....

Oh, I wonder, who will start 'Lamb is good for health' thread or 'Potato is good for health' thread....

[Nightshade]

hey lamb is meat as is chicken, I dont really count fish as meat but I suppose thats only becasue the hala divison for that is differant. Who was it who said its all about your background? I agree with that...