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    Quote Originally Posted by XXXsammyXXX View Post
    i agree with keanna i also found it ironic how the pigs turned into exactally what they rebelled against
    "the praxis of philosophical thought oft contradicts itself" truth in action my friend... that is what marx realized, extreemists go against their own morals

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    Wink Wow

    wow, tht was really deep. I think that the characters in animal farm can relate to society today even thought this book is over fifty years old. It teaches that we as a people cannot function without some kind of guidence, but when some of us become glutonous for power, the whole system set up that was perfectly balanced, is now crumbling apart right before our very eyes. there were only a few animals that realized what was happening but before they knew it, they were following the rest of the group and were sucked into the void by the other's stupity. that is why when in doubt, think of what you know to be right, and what you know to be easy, 'cause it will get you into more truoble than it's really worth.

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    oh, and here is a little someting to think about and i would love any comments anyone has. Why do people work so hard and fight for so long when in the end, it doesn't even matter?!

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    i mean, what did the animals gain by working so hard to overthrown the humans when the pigs could gain all control and screw up the system?THEY GAIN NOTHING!

    so, jst like in AF, control was given to those that seemed most capable when really, the pigs were just puppets which eventually caused them to corrupt he whole system. Just something to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIAxEllax View Post
    oh, and here is a little someting to think about and i would love any comments anyone has. Why do people work so hard and fight for so long when in the end, it doesn't even matter?!
    ella is that a line from linkin park's "in the end"?

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    i think the animals worked so hard in the rebellion to make life better for the future generations

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    wow double time

    Wow, Ella, way to put it!! Your comment just about summed up the point of the whole book!! Nice job!! O and to answer your question..... I have no idea....It's just human nature.....maybe we just get so bored that its all we have.......?......but I'm not sure.......comment please......

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    i find it rather appaling that people can't seem to think for themselves these days. i mean think about, people would rather follow someone that is incompitent just because they can speak on their level, rather than follow someone who has a point(and a brain).cough*BUSH AND KERRY!coughcough* lay religon aside and fous on what is actually important, not to say that religion isn't important, i just find that some people take it to the extreme and end up screwing other people over. In AF, the animals had a good point and a good system in place, the pigs just took it to far and ended up messing everthing up.

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    I totally agree

    Ya I totally agree....the plan for equality among animals in the book was a really good plan!!! And I totally agree that the pigs took it way too far and ruined it!!! If only Boxer was in charge.......

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    Heidi, if Boxer were in charge nothing would happen. Boxer is the animal that went with the flow of everything, there is no way a person or animal like Boxer could be in charge because nothing would get done. In order to be proactive a person who takes charge needs to lead, and that is exactly what Napoleon did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xIAxEllax View Post
    oh, and here is a little someting to think about and i would love any comments anyone has. Why do people work so hard and fight for so long when in the end, it doesn't even matter?!
    well, that is the million dollar question, an existentialist would probably say it doesn't matter, it can't matter, and so you must either make your own meaning out of life, or die in hopless despair. i myself find this somewhat dispiriting and so would suggest that it does matter and it is merely a question of how much you try to change the world we live in that determines your worth. Boxer sees this and despite the political atmosphere on the farm, continues to work, in the end he fails but not because of what he did, more because the lack of support from other animals

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    epilogue?

    I wonder what happened after the book....?...Did the pigs continue to run the farm and did the other animal's lives continue to worsen? Did the pigs continue to trade and side with the humans? Or perhaps the other animals (not pigs) finally figured it out and are fighting back.........please comment on your opinion of what happened after the end of this book.....................

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    I beleive that the system the farm was running on finally died down, that is why Benjamin always went with the flow because he new that systems like that never stuck around for a long time. I think the rest of the farm finally fought back and put an end to Napoleon.

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    Dear Triskele,
    As the teacher of these wonderful freshmen, we read the book, just finished it in fact. I like (as well as discussed in any educational class) my students to dive into a new world without "the real happenings" as it would not only ruin the book, but relate terms and ideas to Russia and "communism". Why not first grapple with the idea that "all people and animals CAN be equal" and find fault in that form of government...before being told the fault...Thank you for your imput - I will make my comments to my students.
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