The White Peacock

[Janine]

HTML doesn't work in the forums, you use the vBcode (basically square brackets instead of < > , just click on the links above the white text window when composing a post to format

Thanks for the information. I will also ask a friend of mine, who knows that type code and formating. I saw the list when I clicked on the vB, but could not really understand how to write the code to make a new paragraph. I am not looking for something fancy to do with my type, but just want to break it up. Would you use the brackets with Br or P, for break or paragraph? Can you help in any further way. Can you just tell me what would go inbetween the square brackets to designate a new paragraph. Any help would be appreciated, since I don't see the link you are referring to unless you are talking about "align right" in the top menu. I will try that today and see if that does the trick. Thanks again.

[Janine]

Janine, I'm computer illiterate. I'm too old. I did not grow up with computers. Sorry.

Thanks. Well I am older than you, but not totally illiterite with formating and computers. I just don't know that particular code. I did not mean to insult your intelligence, sorry. How did you get your text to break into paragraphs? Did you use the align left at the top or align right? I did get a technical assistence reply, also and I wrote her back. I think I can probably figure it out with a little assistence.

[Virgil]

Thanks. Well I am older than you,

Oh, just checked your profile. You are older than me. I'm surprised. Nice to know you. It's nice to relate to a person in my age group. Sometimes with all the young people here, I get used to being one of the older people. BTW, Janine, you can read a little bit about me in the Introduce and Say Hi thread; I'm right on the first page. Oh and you can find out a lot more about me in the Lit Net Interviews, here: http://www.online-literature.com/for...ight=interview, starting on post #224. You even have a picture of me there.

but not totally illiterite with formating and computers. I just don't know that particular code. I did not mean to insult your intelligence, sorry. How did you get your text to break into paragraphs? Did you use the align left at the top or align right? I did get a technical assistence reply, also and I wrote her back. I think I can probably figure it out with a little assistence.

Oh you did not insult my intelligence at all. I'm not sure what you are referring to. Can you point it out? Which post number? Any of these types of questions, I find Logos is the person to ask.

[Janine]

Well, hi Virgil (M), glad you are still talking to me. Thought you must think me old and in need of a walker. I might even be the oldest woman on here. I am really not as old looking as I am (honest), people tell me that all the time.They give me at least 10 years. I have not as yet posted a photo, but I may. I can be honest. Like who cares at this age, right? Actually, I would trade with you and be 44 again, but it is physically impossible. I have not looked at your picture, but will. You are brave or else conceited...haha...just kidding! I did see your public profile. Smart guy with a MA on top of an engineering degree...good for you! I did structural steel detailing for 2 yrs. Not my cup of tea really, but I learned much. When I said I might be offending you, or whatever, I meant when I said "knock, Knock, ...you awake?" I still need some help in formatting. I am a damsel in distress! I did see the explaination page for vB formating, but don't quite know how to achieve a separate paragraph yet. Is it brackets with a p or a br in the center? Well, nice talking to you again. I need to print out the other 25 or so pages of your thesis. I bought paper. So far I like it very much. I am being truthful. It strains my brain a bit, but I do begin to understand what you are pointing out and it is good to think on. As Freida said to Lawrence on hearing his dialect poem: Violets, "I don't understand all of the words, but I do understand the whole poem."...well, something like that, in my case referring to your thesis. I also wanted to post in Shakespeare about Hamlet. I am Hamlet obsessed! I have seen the full length text - the Branagh film - at least 6 times. Of course I read the play twice. I also listened to the CD's about 3 times. I can nearly quote the lines by now. I found a good book, online, with great commentary on Hamlet and the "whys" and "wherefores" of action or delay of action, also good point about the ghost. I will post soon about that in SH section and quote some of the author's lines. I am too tired tonight to do so and it is too late. Remember wisdom comes with age! Going now to check out your mug shot! J

[Virgil]

Well, hi Virgil (M), glad you are still talking to me. Thought you must think me old and in need of a walker. I might even be the oldest woman on here. I am really not as old looking as I am (honest), people tell me that all the time.They give me at least 10 years. I have not as yet posted a photo, but I may. I can be honest. Like who cares at this age, right? Actually, I would trade with you and be 44 again, but it is physically impossible. I have not looked at your picture, but will. You are brave or else conceited...haha...just kidding! I did see your public profile. Smart guy with a MA on top of an engineering degree...good for you! I did structural steel detailing for 2 yrs. Not my cup of tea really, but I learned much. When I said I might be offending you, or whatever, I meant when I said "knock, Knock, ...you awake?" I still need some help in formatting. I am a damsel in distress! I did see the explaination page for vB formating, but don't quite know how to achieve a separate paragraph yet. Is it brackets with a p or a br in the center? Well, nice talking to you again. I need to print out the other 25 or so pages of your thesis. I bought paper. So far I like it very much. I am being truthful. It strains my brain a bit, but I do begin to understand what you are pointing out and it is good to think on. As Freida said to Lawrence on hearing his dialect poem: Violets, "I don't understand all of the words, but I do understand the whole poem."...well, something like that, in my case referring to your thesis. I also wanted to post in Shakespeare about Hamlet. I am Hamlet obsessed! I have seen the full length text - the Branagh film - at least 6 times. Of course I read the play twice. I also listened to the CD's about 3 times. I can nearly quote the lines by now. I found a good book, online, with great commentary on Hamlet and the "whys" and "wherefores" of action or delay of action, also good point about the ghost. I will post soon about that in SH section and quote some of the author's lines. I am too tired tonight to do so and it is too late. Remember wisdom comes with age! Going now to check out your mug shot! J

Janine, I don't even know what vB formatting is. I really don't.

Oh as to age, I lump ages into catagories of experience. Adulescent, young, middle age, and so forth. I judge a person's maturity on that criteria. Fine disctinctions as to 44 and 50 really have no meaning. It depends on the individual at that level.

Come and join that discussionon on the ghost in Hamlet. Apparently I'm the only one who has a particular opinion of Shakespeare's use of the ghost. All those people have ganged up on me.

I was ambivilent about the Branagh Hamlet film. I loved all the other of Branagh's Shakepeare adaptations (especially Henry V and Othello), but for some reason I didn't feel the Hamlet was as good. I think I was thrown off with him setting it in Russia, I believe it was. The Hamlet film that was absolutely perfect for me was the BBC adaptation with Derek Jacobi as Hamlet. When I think of Hamlet, that's what I think of. Perhaps I should refresh my memory of Hamlet since that discussion never seems to end. Unfortunately I can't email that to you.

[Janine]

Ok great - so glad you feel this way! I really don't feel as old as 56. In fact I just met a girl on here, who wants to write me and she is from Romania. She is very nice and quite mature and educated. She is only 13, but I am happy to be her new friend. I told her I could be her grandmother! She is anxious to learn more about the USA. I feel I can be a possitive influence on her and age does not at all matter to me. I believe that these communications bridge our separate worlds together. I met a man on another site, strickly about Thomas Hardy, 4 yrs ago and we are wonderful friends. He, too, is married and his wife and he may come to visit me in the near future. He came to visit for a day in the spring this year when he was in transit to go back to Costa Rica from Japan. He stayed in NYC (your town) and came down on the train two days separately to meet my family. I took him to the Philadephia Art Museum one day. His wife, Yoko, even sent me small presents from Japan. He lived in Costa Rica when we first started our correspondense of Hardy and other authors such as Shakespeare; he has sent me tons of information on all kinds of interesting things, and authors, and artists. He moved back to Japan to care for his aging and now ailing mother. He is older than me slightly so we have wonderfully mature conversations on life and everything to do with art and lit. It has been very rewarding. I don't think the Branagh "Hamlet" is perfect. In fact I think he picked some of the cast to include well-knowns just to appease the public and the producers and get attention for his ambitious film. I do like that the play is presented in full length, uncut; this makes a world of difference to the whole plot and the purpose of the play, even to our understanding of Hamlet's delay and his motives. Did you know that Jacobi's performance of "Hamlet" is what inspired Branagh to become an actor? He saw him do Hamlet on stage and was hooked. He was very young, maybe 18 or 19. He uses Jacobi in many of his films and I love his acting. I thought he did a fine job of playing Claudius. I think Branagh's most perfect work was "Henry V". I have seen it countless times. It is extraordinary! Everthing about it is righ-on - the cast, the setting, the acting, and the way Jacobi narrates, as the chorus...wonderful! I bought it for my own, even though my library has a copy and I could get it out anytime. I had to own it. I also own "Othello" and adore it. That was not directed by Branagh, but by Parker and his brother Nathaniel plays in it. The play is cut, but the cutting of some parts did not hurt it one bit. I will definitely join that group in Shakespeare. It will have to be later on this evening. To quote or cite the sources of my own reading is complicated and I have not read the whole book. I found it online and liked the thoughts that the author had on interpreting the ghost, Hamlet's delay, and the why he acts as he does, etc. The book is highly interesting, but it is only a few excerpts that the public can read; one has to buy the book to see more. My brain is in a freeze right now. I think maybe I need more coffee! I also joined the group, and the other group on Hardy, to exercise my brain and have an outlet for opinions and discussions and feedback - also, to get the same in return from others. It has been most rewarding indeed. I will see you later this evening (hopefully) in "Shakespeare". That is right up my alley in interest and discussion. I hope I can rescue you from being beat up or beng "ganged up on" as you say. Divert the attention and they can beat up on me! Right?

[Virgil]

Right. Thanks.

I did not know that Jacobi inspired Branagh. Very interesting and it makes sense. I did think that Jacobi did a fine job as Claudius. He was the best of the performers. But perhaps I think Jacobi is great at everything. I too own Henry V.

Well perhaps some day we can meet too. See you later.

[Janine]

V, I would like to see the Jacobi version of Hamlet. Do you know what year it came out? Was Jacobi young in it or about Branagh's age when he played the role in his film? Did you see Jacobi in "I Claudius"? I heard he is amazing in it with his stutter. He repeated that stutter in Branagh's film noir: "Dead Again". I was impressed. He also played an interesting character who is chastized for being gay - can't recall the name of the film. His performance was incredible! He is great. I have done that also - stuck with the first impression of a part because of the actor. Did you see Olivier's "Hamlet"? My Japanese friend send it to me recently on a DVD he copied. I was disappointed - I thought it left too much out, plot-wise, and Hamlet was too melancholy throughout the entire play. There were times in the full-length version where Hamlet is quite lively and vital. I prefer that intrepretation, although I agree that Branagh's film has flaws. He should have been as meticulous as he was making "Henry V". Ignore my post saying I could not find the Ghost discussion. I found it and will post after dinner. later.....J

[Virgil]

Apparently filmed in 1980: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080835/

And I looked up Jacobi and he was born on Oct 22, 1938. So he was around 42. But he looked young in the play. Oh, and Patrick Stewart plays a fine Claudius. I can lend you my copy if you wish. Send me a PM on how we can do that.


No I have never seen I Claudius. I should. I'm a ancient Roman history buff and I love Jacobi, so what could be more perfect.

[Logos]

I saw the list when I clicked on the vB, but could not really understand how to write the code to make a new paragraph.

You don't need to type any code to make a paragraph, you just hit the "Enter" key on your keyboard.

[Janine]

Logos, thanks I will try that. I have tried everything else. I know the formating from making pages in eBay and apparently that is HTML. I will let you know if I get it right this time. It has been very frustrating not being able to break up the text.

[Logos]

Maybe you're overthinking it but if you use the "Quick Reply" option you aren't able to preview what you type. I suggest using the button so you can "Preview Post".

[Janine]

Thanks Logo, I do know about the preview and I preview often, believe me! I am a poor speller and need to revise a couple times, so I use the long post and the preview function. Thanks for the advice, anyway. Is there a spell-check on the top menu? I did not see one? Thanks for all your help. Formating worked fine.

[Logos]

No sorry there is no on-site spell check, but you could maybe type your replies in an MS word document then copy/paste them here?

[Janine]

Virgil, I think Branagh was at least 35 when he played the role in his film. He may even have been 38. He played it onstage at a much younger age. I would have liked to have seen that.
Good homework on the Jacobi biography. He is a phenonmenal actor - really fine. I hope to see "I Claudius" as well. Yes, you should definitely see it, being Virgil and liking ancient Roman history! Will PM you about your offer on subject of Hamlet film.
I posted something today about the Ghost in Hamlet. Please see my post - see what you think about my thoughts. I value your opinion. Hope they are not giving up the ghost yet - there were no posting but mine so far today.