Korova Milkbar (no girls allowed)

[RobinHood3000]

Feh -- you forget the elegant and ever-talented Zhang Ziyi.

[Virgil]

On a bit of a serious note, a friend and chatted about the following over the weekend and I'm curious to get the perspective of some other guys.
I grew up without a dad, a reality in many homes today. I've come to learn that there are certain things in a young mans life that he can only learn from another man.
Camping in the bush,learning to ride a bike, fishing and scratching for worms are in my opinion important factors that sets a platform for later years in a mans life.
Do I feel at a disadvantage? I would have to say yes, but hats off to my mom I think she did an awesome job as a single parent.I've turned out fairly whole I'd like to think.
Having said all of the above I've come to learn(believe me I've had to learn this) that masculinity has more to do with how you think and what you have in your heart than the size of your biceps.

Kudos to your mom. And I agree aboutyour last sentence.

Getting back to this thread, there needs to be some allotted time for male hanging out. For bonding as Ozeed says. I assume women need the same too. I don't smoke either, but something like that is needed for the male mind. Something healthy but something definetly male.

[Nightshade]

hey my grandmother smoked ciiigars who says there male only?

[OZEED]

I was thinking about a name for our club....some feedback would be great guys...

MASCULUM HOMINEM

I thought the latin would make a strong statement.

[Dry_Snail]

I was thinking about a name for our club....some feedback would be great guys...

MASCULUM HOMINEM

I thought the latin would make a strong statement.

How about:

G R O S S
Get Rid Of Slimy girlS

[OZEED]

How about:

G R O S S
Get Rid Of Slimy girlS

Hey we're not anti-femme, and we don't think that girls are slimy
we like girls, dont we guys? we just like our space as well.

[optimisticnad]

No girls? Yeh right. LIke a bunch of guys can get together without referring to them or wanting them there too. so il put u guys out of your misery! here are the girls! but then again....male bonding> mmm.....lots of grunting, farting....not sure i want to be here!

[Virgil]

Hey we're not anti-femme, and we don't think that girls are slimy
we like girls, dont we guys? we just like our space as well.

Absolutely. A world without girls is not worth living. I'm just talking about an occaisional time set aside for guys things. What do you think we talk about? Other than sports, girls.

[optimisticnad]

mmmm.....i wonder if this would work, absolutely no girls posting here, encouraging my fellow sisters not to post here and than wel see how long this thread gets and how dul and mundane the conversation will become....

[OZEED]

mmmm.....i wonder if this would work, absolutely no girls posting here, encouraging my fellow sisters not to post here and than wel see how long this thread gets and how dul and mundane the conversation will become....

I beg your pardon?? We'll take that as a challenge, and you know how guys get about challenges.
We can be interesting and deep with regards to our conversations.

any ideas with names?

[optimisticnad]

S R E S O L

i think it has a nice ring round it dont you?

or

T S O P E S A E L P S L R I G

and im for the challenge its conving my fellow girls.

[kilted exile]

We can be interesting and deep with regards to our conversations.

Sure can.

What is it with the current desire for teams to play versions of the 4-5-1 (see fig. 1 for the unenlightened) formation? This is a dreadful formation and should only be played by teams who lack any skill and ability - therefore having to clog up the midfield and prevent the more skillful teams from playing glorious, flowing football. To see this formation being played by so many teams in favour of the 4-4-2 (fig. 2 - and my personal preference) or 5-3-2 (fig. 3 - also at times called the 3-5-2).

Any team playing 4-5-1 can be so easily neutralised by lining up with wingbacks like in the 5-3-2. The 2 main centre backs take care of the lone striker, the spare defender (or if you are using one, sweeper) is left able to move to cover the "hole" player/attacking midfielder when necessary. the wingbacks take care of the opposing wingers in a tight man-marking situation. I know this exposes the wingbacks to being double teamed at times by attacking fullbacks joining in with the play, however with the striker being covered by 2 defenders at all times the delivery from the flanks will have to be perfect to cause any real alarm. The 3 midfielders are then left to match up against the 2 (predominantly) holding/clogger midfielders from the 4-5-1 thereby outnumbering and giving more chance of one of them being available. The 2 strikers each occupy one of the centrebacks and will require help to be provided by the fullbacks - which will in turn reduce their ability to overlap.


Figure: 1 (4-5-1 formation)

_________GK__________
RB____CB____CB_____LB
______CM____CM______
RW______AM________LW
_________ST__________

This is the variant I see most often currently, imho it should be a lot more defensive with the attacking midfielder (AM) dropping back further into midfield. You wont create many chances or goals, but neither will the opponent.

Figure: 2 (4-4-2 formation)

_________GK__________
RB____CB____CB_____LB
RM____CM____CM_____LM
______ST____ST_______

Solid, fluent, offers opportunites for both attack and defence. Possibly a future post will deal with this formation (if I can be bothered)

Figure: 3 (5-3-2 formation)

________GK__________
________SW_________
_____CB____CB_______
RWB______________LWB
_____CM_CM_CM_____
_____ST____ST_______

Also called 3-5-2 depending on how you count the wingbacks, sometimes the sweeper is played as a Centre back in line with the other 2, or one of the centre midfielders is advanced to a attacking midfield position.


*What is more deep and meaningful than sport?*

[miss tenderness]

how about:
women are the secret of our existence ??
sounds respectable and gratful!

[Virgil]

See with no girls around, we guys can openly talk about things like this:




How is male wisdom supposed to be passed on?

[OZEED]

uuuh oh! Now you gonna get some tongues wagging with that one Virgil.