*rubs hands together*....this thread actually has me waiting on it...this is a first.
*rubs hands together*....this thread actually has me waiting on it...this is a first.
I shall substantiate my points, Chris, but so, too, must you - for if you lay a charge that alone must suffice to cast a doubt on my words, then, unless your criticism is itself substantiated, it bears no weight.Originally Posted by Chris Weimer
Let me ask you how many things you can think of proofs for - you do not yet have to describe the proofs, but may simply list the things for which you believe there to be corresponding proofs. Let a standard be set up, if you really have one you expect me to live up to.
I have already stated that I displayed a string of related thoughts as preliminary to my detailed treatment of the points in successive order. I will come back to take you right to each thing in the progression of my case.You need to be specific on this. "Here and there" says nothing at all.
While I love that you aptly said what I also say concerning the lateness of records of Greek and Roman myths, I certainly do not see the Greeks as having that well unified a base of myths, but merely a well shared conglomeration of disparate lores. The "many inconsistencies" you keenly see and mention, in regard to the whole of Greek mythology, were noted in my own observation in this:Do you mean that the Greeks had a fairly unified mythology? I agree, for the most part, the major stories were the same, most likely because those stories were spread from one tribe to another. Many inconsistencies were introduced by playwrights, or possibly the playwrights used a different versions. However, we lack much serious literature from the time to make an affirmative answer one way or another, and what we do have is often very late (e.g. Ovid).
that, despite their variety and number, they are often variations of single tales, and, even if the variations themselves are traces of yet other traditions brought into the tradition being discussed, the main bulk of the cycles of these tales has a somewhat static preservation - this said, though, it doesn't diminish the fact that in comparing the fixed forms of Hebrew writings to the Greek mythical cycles, there is much to commend the Hebrew Writings as far more universally attested in static form among Torah possesseing peoples scattered far and wide there there could ever be found for the fixed forms of Greek myths among unified Greek tribes living long in one place together.
Anyways, this best awaits its own thread.
You're simply not dividing up the terms as I had intended them to be understood:You must be referring to the Greek fathers in the second century common era. Which of the Church Fathers were teachers in the Academy? I presume, since you said "many" that you can name at least five. Good luck.
I in fact listed philosophers first, directly after the adjective "many". I listed "teachers of the Akademy" second as an afterthought about individuals who were more likely thought of as teachers than as philosophers carrying their own school with them.