Some of us plan to get sprinkled in a California redwood grove and the Delaware River (between PA and Jersey) instead
Some of us plan to get sprinkled in a California redwood grove and the Delaware River (between PA and Jersey) instead
shh!!!
the air and water have been here a long time, and they are telling stories.
Why be negitive, why not say that we're alive is a common ground and be more upbeat, that's a truth as well.
"There's nothing you can say that can't be sung."
I'm not so sure death is such a common ground.
Has anyone here personally experienced death? The perception of death is common. But none of us can ever experience it. And even if someone claimed they had in a previous life, it wouldn't help me, as it would just be a claim.
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
The preachers deal with men of straw, as they are men of straw themselves - Henry David Thoreau
The way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason - Benjamin Franklin
The teaching of the church, theoretically astute, is a lie in practice and a compound of vulgar superstitions and sorcery - Leo Tolstoy
What death is is not common, for example different religions believe different things. That death is is common, even if you believe in reincarnation it seems that death still has to happen. The differences in opinion over death are probably more likely to divide than prove a common ground.
"There's nothing you can say that can't be sung."
By death being common, I mean we will all die, for a short time we will all believe the same thing, "Hey were dead".
Life is to eratic to be common.
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Stanislaw Lem
1921 - 2006, Rest In Peace.
"Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether impossible"
It is common in the same way death is, we all experiance it one way or another. Death is also eratic.
"There's nothing you can say that can't be sung."
I would just like to point out that we haven't experienced death, and we are more likely to be aware of the experience of dying than death.
Everything that we know of had a start and will have an end.
But can you remember starting?
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
The preachers deal with men of straw, as they are men of straw themselves - Henry David Thoreau
The way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason - Benjamin Franklin
The teaching of the church, theoretically astute, is a lie in practice and a compound of vulgar superstitions and sorcery - Leo Tolstoy
Knowledge that we will experiance death is there but it is a very tenuous (sp?) common ground and one I doubt many people could agree on.
"There's nothing you can say that can't be sung."
The actual act of birth and death I have realized are common, its like we are the water cycle, we all start off the same, go crazy and are all over the place, and then end the same. Or maybe I am nuts.
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Stanislaw Lem
1921 - 2006, Rest In Peace.
"Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether impossible"
You should be
"There's nothing you can say that can't be sung."
Amuse, reading your post and the rest of this tread, I was reminded of the last few lines of Walt Whitman’s “Leaves of Grass:”
I depart as air—I shake my white locks at the runaway sun;
I effuse my flesh in eddies, and drift it in lacy jags.
I bequeathe myself to the dirt, to grow from the grass I love;
If you want me again, look for me under your boot-soles.
You will hardly know who I am, or what I mean;
But I shall be good health to you nevertheless,
And filter and fibre your blood.
Failing to fetch me at first, keep encouraged;
Missing me one place, search another;
I stop somewhere, waiting for you.
Uhhhh...
It sends chills down my spine to read this and know that he is speaking to us from beyond the grave.
Uhhhh...
These are words of wisdom and I agree with you.Originally Posted by Remysf
Indeed our conditioned minds, or our ideas that are simply gathered through experiences or books can not comprehend the meaning of truth. Of course we must get past all to arrive at truth.
“Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””
“If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.
Including the concept of truth?
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
The preachers deal with men of straw, as they are men of straw themselves - Henry David Thoreau
The way to see faith is to shut the eye of reason - Benjamin Franklin
The teaching of the church, theoretically astute, is a lie in practice and a compound of vulgar superstitions and sorcery - Leo Tolstoy
Indeed the concept of truth is likened to the concept of a glass of water unless you drink you ca not satisfy your thirst. This validates the fact that truth is not the concept but truth only.
“Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””
“If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.
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