Bergman - Autumn Sonata
Pretty devastating, I found it better than Cries and Whispers but that's an unconventional ranking I think.
9/10
Bergman - Autumn Sonata
Pretty devastating, I found it better than Cries and Whispers but that's an unconventional ranking I think.
9/10
So with the courage of a clown, or a cur, or a kite jerkin tight at it's tether
Yeah, they are both pretty devastating. Cries and Whispers is more meaningful to me, probably because of a cancer death I was close to when I was younger, but I don't see how you could rank them except on that sort of subjective basis.
Mr. Right: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mr_right_2016/reviews/
I especially loved how Anna Kendrick delivered her lines in this movie. This is an action-romcom. It is right up there with "Mr. and Mrs. Smith", "Spy", and "Knight and Day".
Score: 10/10
You are right about that, Danik.
I looked up Yiddish in Wikipedia, and was surprised to learn that in the far-east of Russia is an oblast that has Yiddish as its main language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddis...onomous_Oblast
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I remember seeing Cries and Whispers, a very depressing film: but a good one for all that.
Yes, when I looked up reviews for Autumn Sonata (I like to read reviews immediately after I've seen a movie) most of the reviewers were comparing it negatively to Cries and Whispers, which I gather he made in the same period, and the subject is obviously pretty similar.
I actually avoided Autumn Sonata because it seems to be one of his more B-side movies and I don't really like the look of the ones where the characters all wear... 70's style pants suits and other Abba looking clothes, but the movie spoke for itself in about five minutes.
Fellini - 8 1/2
5/10 - Didn't really like it honestly.
So with the courage of a clown, or a cur, or a kite jerkin tight at it's tether
I'm not much of a Fellini fan either. La Dolce Vita maybe for nostalgia's sake, but I think his films in general are dated in a way that Begman's are not. I mean, Bergman's detractors will say his are, too, but there's always been a group that's not comfortable with movies like that. Fellini's films are dated (in my opinion) because they deal with form rather than substance. It's the same pit postmodernists fall into today (again in my opinion) with their Warholian icons uber alles. But today's eternal icons turn soon into tomorrow's worthless Soviet bric-a-brac. Or maybe--nostalgia at best.
The Abba pants suit remark had me laughing so hard I had to pee. Yes, I guess those films were from that era. Cries and Whispers (which obviously isn't set in the 70s) came out when I was in Middle School and Autumn Sonota when I was in college. Those color Bergman movies are a little jarring. In the black and white ones, the tones (and usually the music) are soothing even when the story becomes horrific (or sometimes there is no music, which intensifies the horror). But in the later movies, the color itself can be oppressive. I haven't seen Cries and Whispers for a long time, but I still remember those bone-white women who lived in this blood-crimson universe. The colors themselves were unnerving (even if the music could still soothe).
Hey Clopin, did you ever see Jean-Luc Godard's A Bout de Souffle (also known as Breathless, but never never never never confuse it with the godawful Richard Gere remake)? I think you might like it.
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Somewhere Lykren's nose just twitched. But yeh the only other Fellini movie I've seen is Satyricon and I was lukewarm on that one as well. 8 1/2 seemed pretty self indulgent but maybe I'm just sensitive to movies or storylines which star the artist struggling to be the artist and it's all created by an artist. I think these types of movies walk a fine line between profound and annoying. If you've seen Adaptation that's an example of this sort of trope that I actually enjoyed.Fellini's films are dated (in my opinion) because they deal with form rather than substance. It's the same pit postmodernists fall into today
I saw a couple other movies lately since I've had trouble sleeping and they aren't really helping but:
Bela Tarr - The Turin Horse - 8/10
I've heard horror stories about this being a three hour meditation on potatoes and I think I spent about five minutes skipping around trying to find a spoken word to test if my subtitles were working (they were) so I was prepared for that kind of thing. I usually don't find movies boring if I have pretty pictures to look at and this was... not really boring, despite being about three hours long. I liked it but I probably wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants stuff to happen in their movies. And it was quite pretty in a very stark kind of way.
Tarkovsky - Stalker, Nostalghia - Don't feel like rating/10
Aside from Andrei Rublev (which I loved) I dunno how to judge these Tarkovsky movies. I think I'm biased towards them because I like Russia so much, but they are very beautiful even if I don't always understand the significance of what I'm being shown. I had seen Stalker before around the time I first started getting into "art" films and found it pretty dull but I enjoyed it a lot this time, probably now my expectations are different. I think when I first started watching these movies (and reading 'literature' for that matter) I was sort of expecting big philosophical monologues and dissertations on life and meaning, etc and of course that's not really what you get from most artists in any genre... though funnily enough the first author I really liked was Dostoyevsky and the first filmmaker was Ingmar Bergman.
Oh and yes, I've seen Breathless, the only Godard film I've seen. I enjoyed it but didn't love it or anything.
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So with the courage of a clown, or a cur, or a kite jerkin tight at it's tether
I guess I should contribute to this thread. The most recent film I saw was last night, entitled Sexy Young Girl does Anal with her Friend's Dad. I'll admit I didn't understand it. I'd heard art films could be a little hard to decipher. Some of the metaphors, for example. What does 'schoolgirl's wrists and ankles bound behind her back with older man's necktie' mean, for instance? Then there were extended sections of the film where the girl enjoyed lying on the bed with her head hanging over the edge, mouth open. What's the import there? Is it a statement about women's liberation?
I learned later, too, that the film is part of a trilogy that includes Young Rebellious Girl does Anal with Therapist and My Friends Tag Teamed my Sister. The second film, apparently, attracted great interest at Cannes. I personally don't get it. Maybe art films just aren't for me.
Obsessed with facial symmetry.
I agree, Tyrion. I abandoned them myself, decades ago.
I didn't realize we were rating such films in this thread. What a waste of potential, I should have several hundred more entries by now.The most recent film I saw was last night, entitled Sexy Young Girl does Anal with her Friend's Dad.
So with the courage of a clown, or a cur, or a kite jerkin tight at it's tether
hahahaha
So with the courage of a clown, or a cur, or a kite jerkin tight at it's tether
'9 to 5', an 80's comedy about women in the workplace. Dolly Parton and other women who are tired of working in a man's world. Very entertaining and some great scenes about the treatment of women in some places and by some people.
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