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    Thanks again, MorpheusSandman.

    It is interesting that I was thinking about "starts" as well when revising that line but put in "wants" just to give the Sun some choice. The lilies are communicating as well in the poem.

    Generally I don't like inversions and the one you mentioned bothered me, but I thought it helped the weirdness of the scene where lilies were talking to Thomas. Saying that it was "unsettling" makes sense. I felt unsettled by it myself.

    I agree with the subject matter of Stallings' poem and the part that you quoted. I just don't find the subject matter interesting enough for a poem. A short blog post? Fine.

    You made a good point in another thread that even non-formalists write about stuff that doesn't matter. Probably all poets do. My knee-jerk reaction against formalism is that the subject matter is too often archaic (Greek and Roman Gods), political (usually conservative), and cute witticisms. On the other hand, I would be a formalist trying to define myself outside of that group. I have more of a need to differentiate myself from other formalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YesNo View Post
    Generally I don't like inversions and the one you mentioned bothered me, but I thought it helped the weirdness of the scene where lilies were talking to Thomas. Saying that it was "unsettling" makes sense. I felt unsettled by it myself.
    I think of all poetic techniques as tools, and art is primarily knowing when to use what tool for what purpose. Thoughtless use of any tool, be it inversions or metaphors or imagery or anaphora, inevitably leads to bad poetry. Even great poets can fall into the habits of returning to certain techniques as if they're universally applicable; Whitman had a love for anaphora that bordered on fetishistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by YesNo View Post
    My knee-jerk reaction against formalism is that the subject matter is too often archaic (Greek and Roman Gods), political (usually conservative), and cute witticisms. On the other hand, I would be a formalist trying to define myself outside of that group. I have more of a need to differentiate myself from other formalists.
    Today, probably the most known poet writing about ancient subjects is Anne Carson; a non-formalist. Likewise, of the major 20th century formalist poets, none were entirely conservative (Auden was a communist, Yeats for Irish independence, Bishop and Merrill were apolitical, but closer to liberals; only Hill is kind of conservative, but there mostly in his religious beliefs, which he investigates more than blatantly promotes). Equating formalism with conservative ideology has more to do with equating formalism with pre-20th century poetry and finding most pre-20th century poetry conservative. This association hasn't really held in the 20th, where arguably the major conservative poet of the century was Eliot, who also happened to be one of the innovators of free-verse. Witticism I'll give you; formalism has always lent itself well to wit and aphorism, and, indeed, Auden, Bishop, and Merrill are witty; they could also be very serious, complex, and profound. Frankly, I think if you were going to introduce something new to formalism it would be the kind of imaginative improvisational approach that's common in, say, Ashbery. I've attempted this myself, and it's a difficult combination as it's hard to maintain formal control while giving yourself over to unconscious creativity.
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    The Ballad of the Woodsman

    Long ago, on a cold summer night
    Walking in the woods, dark and mossed
    I met a dryad and at the first sight
    My heart to her was forever lost.

    Her hair was green, as were her eyes
    That, meeting mine, imprisoned me.
    My nymph and I, intertwined at thighs
    I told her: like this I want forever be.

    But she vanished to her forest home
    And I was doomed by that one tryst,
    To wondering under the green dome
    With the memory of the lips I but once kissed.

    O where are you, green dryad?
    All my days and all my nights I spent
    In your search, but I am now tired
    And realize: to you it nothing meant.
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    So sorry I delayed this (and forgot to set a deadline in the first place!). Thank you, YesNo and North Star for your contributions. YesNo, you're the winner. Take it away!

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    Thanks, Joe!

    The next form is a poem that fits on a page of one of the micro-chapbooks from the Origami Poems Project: http://www.origamipoems.com/

    Here are the constraints:

    1) No more than 47 characters per line including spaces.
    2) No more than 25 lines. (They say 25-27 lines, but let's make it exact.) Those lines include the title and a line between the title and the text. So the poem can only be 23 lines long.

    Topic: Warm summer day.

    Deadline: August 23rd.

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    An afternoon in August

    I heard the helicopters
    back and forth
    along the river

    They were celebrating
    drinking and laughing
    three houses down the street

    He just wanted
    to cool his ancles
    down by the river

    I heard the helicopters
    He got in deeper
    They were laughing

    All afternoon
    I heard the helicopters
    I heard them laughing

    He had been from Syria
    He could not swim
    I still hear them laughing

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    Thank you for the entry, windblown!

    Anyone else? Contest ends tomorrow.

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    I wanted to enter this one but August was a busy month and I forgot about it. I will try and get something done by the end of the day.

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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    Poolside

    Water drops sizzle
    on skin, under
    sun’s glare.

    Sultry air,
    wind a hot breath
    against the neck.

    Bone dry stillness
    then a faint
    inviting splash.

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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    Contest is over! Thank you, windblown and Dark Muse, for the entries!

    windblown: This has an ominous feel about it with someone playing in water who can't swim and the alternation between laughter and helicopters.

    Dark Muse: This was a nice description of someone coming out of the water and going back in. I can almost feel my skin reacting to the sun and the wind.

    These are both very good and they both fit the form, or rather constraints, needed for a submission to the Origami Poems Project.

    The winner: Dark Muse

    Congratulations!

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    Thank you! I will post the new form soon.

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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    The next form is called a Diamante (Not required, but if it is centered it creates a diamond like shape)

    Structure of the form:

    Line 1: Noun/Subject
    Line 2: Two adjectives
    Line 3: three ing words (looking, seeking, swimming etc..)
    Line 4: Four words 2 about subject and 2 about an antonym or synonym
    Line 5: three ing words
    Line 6: two adjectives
    Line 7: antonym or synonym

    Here are some examples:

    She
    supple; soft
    nurturing; enchanting; defying
    temptress; lunar; solar
    unyielding; searching; appealing
    solid; noble
    He

    Yin
    elusive, darkness
    yielding, alluring, inviting,
    serene, Anima, energetic, Animus
    arising, commanding, shining
    decisive, action
    Yang

    Deadline: Sept. 20th

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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    Reality and Her Model Lover

    Reality
    here, now
    being, becoming, living
    support, transformation, logic, tests
    contemplating, imitating, explaining
    simplistic, reductive
    model
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    I will give a little more time to see if I can get a few more takers

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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    Well it looks like you are it YesNo. Great poem all the same, and deserving of a win.

    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before. ~ Edgar Allan Poe

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