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    Quote Originally Posted by YesNo View Post
    If you take the Fitzgerald translation and pretend the line breaks aren't there, couldn't you read it as prose?
    I find it a 'long ordeal and difficult passage'. But let's try it:

    Almighty Juno, filled with pity for this long ordeal and difficult passage, now sent Iris down out of Olympus to set free the wrestling spirit from the body's hold. For since she died, not at her fated span nor as she merited, but before her time enflamed and driven mad, Proserpina had not yet plucked from her the golden hair, delivering her to Orcus of the Styx. So humid Iris through bright heaven flew on saffron-yellow wings, and in her train a thousand hues shimmered before the sun. At Dido's head she came to rest. "This token Sacred to Dis I bear away as bidden And free you from your body." Saying this, she cut a lock of hair. Along with it her body's warmth fell into dissolution, and out into the winds her life withdrew."

    I'm sorry, but this just doesn't work as prose. Also it makes things rather opaque, was that 'long ordeal and passage' a journey by ship? But West's prose version also has problems, take the first line of our passage:

    "Almighty Juno took pity on her long anguish and difficult death and sent Iris down to free her struggling spirit and loosen the fastening of her limbs."

    'to free her struggling spirit and loosen the fastening of her limbs' is very awkward & opaque. I much prefer Fitzgerald's, 'to set free the wrestling spirit from the body's hold'. And I'm not sure how West can get away with avoiding scholarly apparatus for that passage - surely the average Penguin reader would require definitions of Proserpina, Orca, Styx, Dido, Dis, and explanations of things like 'plucked from her the golden hair.'

    All in all, as my Oxford Companion to Classical Literature says, "the poem is immensely complex"!

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    All the purple prose (or whatever it's called) makes it hard to read. Here's my translation:

    Out of pity, Juno sent Iris down to make sure Dido was dead.

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    Here's the most recent stanza I've read:

    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

    - from the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal4mac View Post
    Here's the most recent stanza I've read:

    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

    - from the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
    and what is the meaning of this passage?
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    I read this poem by Maya Angelou to my class after her death recently.

    Alone

    Lying, thinking
    Last night
    How to find my soul a home
    Where water is not thirsty
    And bread loaf is not stone
    I came up with one thing
    And I don't believe I'm wrong
    That nobody,
    But nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    Alone, all alone
    Nobody, but nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    There are some millionaires
    With money they can't use
    Their wives run round like banshees
    Their children sing the blues
    They've got expensive doctors
    To cure their hearts of stone.
    But nobody
    No, nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    Alone, all alone
    Nobody, but nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    Now if you listen closely
    I'll tell you what I know
    Storm clouds are gathering
    The wind is gonna blow
    The race of man is suffering
    And I can hear the moan,
    'Cause nobody,
    But nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    Alone, all alone
    Nobody, but nobody
    Can make it out here alone.

    Maya Angelou
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    Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
    Success in Circuit lies
    Too bright for our infirm Delight
    The Truth's superb surprise
    As Lightning to the Children eased
    With explanation kind
    The Truth must dazzle gradually
    Or every man be blind —

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    To an Athlete Dying Young
    By E.A. Housman


    The time you won your town the race
    We chaired you through the market-place;
    Man and boy stood cheering by,
    And home we brought you shoulder-high.

    Today, the road all runners come,
    Shoulder-high we bring you home,
    And set you at your threshold down,
    Townsman of a stiller town.

    Smart lad, to slip betimes away
    From fields where glory does not stay,
    And early though the laurel grows
    It withers quicker than the rose.

    Eyes the shady night has shut
    Cannot see the record cut,
    And silence sounds no worse than cheers
    After earth has stopped the ears.

    Now you will not swell the rout
    Of lads that wore their honours out,
    Runners whom renown outran
    And the name died before the man.

    So set, before its echoes fade,
    The fleet foot on the sill of shade,
    And hold to the low lintel up
    The still-defended challenge-cup.

    And round that early-laurelled head
    Will flock to gaze the strengthless dead,
    And find unwithered on its curls
    The garland briefer than a girl’s.
    'So - this is where we stand. Win all, lose all,
    we have come to this: the crisis of our lives'

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    I hardly read any poetry but I'm working on it, and recently I read and loved Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Here is a random quote, and an audio clip can be found here - http://www.public.asu.edu/~gelderen/AUDIO.htm


    Now ridez žis renk žurȝ že ryalme of Logres,
    Sir Gauan, on Godez halue, žaȝ hym no gomen žoȝt.
    Oft leudlez alone he lengez on nyȝtez
    Žer he fonde noȝt hym byfore že fare žat he lyked.
    Hade he no fere bot his fole bi frythez and dounez,
    Ne no gome bot God bi gate wyth to karp,
    Til žat he neȝed ful neghe into že Norže Walez.
    Alle že iles of Anglesay on lyft half he haldez,
    And farez ouer že fordez by že forlondez,
    Ouer at že Holy Hede, til he hade eft bonk
    In že wyldrenesse of Wyrale; wonde žer bot lyte [folio 100v]
    Žat aužer God ožer gome wyth goud hert louied.
    And ay he frayned, as he ferde, at frekez žat he met,
    If žay hade herde any karp of a knyȝt grene,
    In any grounde žeraboute, of že grene chapel;
    And al nykked hym wyth nay, žat neuer in her lyue
    Žay seȝe neuer no segge žat watz of suche hwez
    of grene.
    Že knyȝt tok gates straunge
    In mony a bonk vnbene,
    His cher ful oft con chaunge
    Žat chapel er he myȝt sene.
    Mony klyf he ouerclambe in contrayez straunge,
    Fer floten fro his frendez fremedly he rydez.
    At vche warže ožer water žer že wyȝe passed
    He fonde a foo hym byfore, bot ferly hit were,
    And žat so foule and so felle žat feȝt hym byhode.
    So mony meruayl bi mount žer že mon fyndez,
    Hit were to tore for to telle of že tenže dole.
    Exit, pursued by a bear.

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    here is the next one I read:

    To Celia is a poem published after March 1616 by Ben Jonson. It became the lyrics of a song, Drink to Me Only with Thine Eyes, composed sometime after 1770.— Excerpted from To Celia on Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    drink to me only with thine eyes

    Drink to me only with thine eyes
    And I will pledge with mine
    Or leave a kiss but in the cup
    And I'll not look for wine
    The thirst that from the soul doth rise
    Doth ask a drink divine
    But might I of Jove's nectar sup
    I would not change for thine

    I sent thee late a rosy wreath
    Not so much honouring thee
    As giving it a hope that there
    It could not withered be
    But thou thereon didst only breathe
    And sent'st it back to me
    Since when it grows, and smells, I swear
    Not of itself but thee!
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    The most recent poem I've read is The Garden of Proserpine by Algernon C. Swinburne.

    Here's a bit of it :

    Here, where the world is quiet;
    Here, where all trouble seems
    Dead winds' and spent waves' riot
    In doubtful dreams of dreams;
    I watch the green field growing
    For reaping folk and sowing,
    For harvest-time and mowing,
    A sleepy world of streams.

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    To the river aven

    TO THE RIVER AVEN
    By ERNEST DOWSON 25th January, 1898

    Is lotus eating lost in an old story,
    And is the Golden Age departed when
    Gorse lined these hills in a great golden glory,
    Where river runs to sea from Pont-Aven?

    Fate hath no arrows left in any quiver,
    This is the land of all oblivious men:
    How many dreams, and dead desires this river
    Hath borne to the waste sea from Pont-Aven?
    Deguonis
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    "The price of the succulent cabbage is up,
    The cabbage that's grown by the hand of Ah Pup.
    'The stock of the Chow soars in country and town
    But that of the poet goes steadily down."
    - JOHN BEDE DALLEY

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    futility

    Wilfred Owen

    move him into the sun-
    gently its touch awoke him once
    at home, whispering of fields unsown
    always it awoke him, even in France
    until this morning and this snow
    if anything might rouse him now
    the kind old sun will know

    think how it wakes the seeds
    woke, once, the clays of a cold star
    are limbs so dear-achieved, are sides
    full-nerved,--still warm,--too hard to stir?
    was it for this the clay grew tall?
    --o what made fatuous sunbeams toil
    to break earth's sleep at all?
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    A Graveyard
    BY MARIANNE MOORE


    Man, looking into the sea—
    taking the view from those who have as much right to it as you have it to yourself—
    it is human nature to stand in the middle of a thing
    but you cannot stand in the middle of this:
    the sea has nothing to give but a well excavated grave.
    The firs stand in a procession—each with an emerald turkey-foot at the top—
    reserved as their contours, saying nothing;
    repression, however, is not the most obvious characteristic of the sea;
    the sea is a collector, quick to return a rapacious look.
    There are others besides you who have worn that look—
    whose expression is no longer a protest; the fish no longer investigate them
    for their bones have not lasted;
    men lower nets, unconscious of the fact that they are desecrating a grave,
    and row quickly away—the blades of the oars
    moving together like the feet of water-spiders as if there were no such thing as death.
    The wrinkles progress upon themselves in a phalanx—beautiful under networks of foam,
    and fade breathlessly while the sea rustles in and out of the seaweed;
    the birds swim through the air at top speed, emitting cat-calls as heretofore—
    the tortoise-shell scourges about the feet of the cliffs, in motion beneath them
    and the ocean, under the pulsation of light-houses and noise of bell-buoys,
    advances as usual, looking as if it were not that ocean in which dropped things are bound to sink—
    in which if they turn and twist, it is neither with volition nor consciousness.
    'So - this is where we stand. Win all, lose all,
    we have come to this: the crisis of our lives'

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    Wanting to Die, Anne Sexton.


    Since you ask, most days I cannot remember.
    I walk in my clothing, unmarked by that voyage.
    Then the almost unnameable lust returns.

    Even then I have nothing against life.
    I know well the grass blades you mention,
    the furniture you have placed under the sun.

    But suicides have a special language.
    Like carpenters they want to know which tools.
    They never ask why build.

    Twice I have so simply declared myself,
    have possessed the enemy, eaten the enemy,
    have taken on his craft, his magic.

    In this way, heavy and thoughtful,
    warmer than oil or water,
    I have rested, drooling at the mouth-hole.

    I did not think of my body at needle point.
    Even the cornea and the leftover urine were gone.
    Suicides have already betrayed the body.

    Still-born, they don’t always die,
    but dazzled, they can’t forget a drug so sweet
    that even children would look on and smile.

    To thrust all that life under your tongue!—
    that, all by itself, becomes a passion.
    Death’s a sad bone; bruised, you’d say,

    and yet she waits for me, year after year,
    to so delicately undo an old wound,
    to empty my breath from its bad prison.

    Balanced there, suicides sometimes meet,
    raging at the fruit a pumped-up moon,
    leaving the bread they mistook for a kiss,

    leaving the page of the book carelessly open,
    something unsaid, the phone off the hook
    and the love whatever it was, an infection.



    You can listen to Sexton reading her own poem, just write the title in "Youtube". And of course, we know that Sexton had committed suicide after few years.

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    I really like this one. Billy Collins writes with a great deal of humour, but this one really is a vivid description of Goya.

    CANDLE HAT (Billy Collins)

    In most self-portraits it is the face that dominates:
    Cezanne is a pair of eyes swimming in brushstrokes,
    Van Gogh stares out of a halo of swirling darkness,
    Rembrant looks relieved as if he were taking a breather
    from painting The Blinding of Sampson.

    But in this one Goya stands well back from the mirror
    and is seen posed in the clutter of his studio
    addressing a canvas tilted back on a tall easel.

    He appears to be smiling out at us as if he knew
    we would be amused by the extraordinary hat on his head
    which is fitted around the brim with candle holders,
    a device that allowed him to work into the night.

    You can only wonder what it would be like
    to be wearing such a chandelier on your head
    as if you were a walking dining room or concert hall.

    But once you see this hat there is no need to read
    any biography of Goya or to memorize his dates.

    To understand Goya you only have to imagine him
    lighting the candles one by one, then placing
    the hat on his head, ready for a night of work.

    Imagine him surprising his wife with his new invention,
    the laughing like a birthday cake when she saw the glow.

    Imagine him flickering through the rooms of his house
    with all the shadows flying across the walls.

    Imagine a lost traveler knocking on his door
    one dark night in the hill country of Spain.
    "Come in, " he would say, "I was just painting myself,"
    as he stood in the doorway holding up the wand of a brush,
    illuminated in the blaze of his famous candle hat.

    Billy Collins

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