Is Celebrating Death Justifiable?

[Ecurb]

Well since you have brought religion into it, I think a biblical qotation might be appropriate.

Deuteronomy 19:21 Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Not that I am a great one for biblical quotations, as it is a book that seeks to be all things to all men and it's not
difficult to find an alternative to many of its nostrums.

I wasn't "bringing religion into it" (other than in a very tangential way, by quoting a "legendary" figure -- I'm not personally religious). However, an "eye for an eye" clearly makes no distinction based on ego-centric "perspective". Under Roman law, the plaintiff in what we would now call a criminal trial was the injured party. If you murdered someone with no close relatives, there would be no "plaintiff", and thus no trial. Today, the plaintiff in criminal trials is the State (in the U.S., the "Crown" in the U.K.). WE have correctly determined that breaking the law is an offense against The State (which made the laws in the first place). Therefore a "perspective" based on the personal harm done to the victim SHOULD have no bearing on the prosecution of the criminal.

[cacian]

I think we've skirted it quite well through the medium of history. It was always going to be difficult with Thatcher on topic.

Well they do say it is not about how you start it is about the finish and her finish was not particularly celebratory. I think that deserves a pause or too.
To begin is to end on a high note that way people cherish the thought and the memory is long lasting.
Her end with politics was anything but commemorative and she had to live with that. You bring in as much as you get in and I think justice was served. I doubt many would cherish the thought let alone remember.

[liza]

"Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habit. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.”

[cacian]

"Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habit. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.”

And watch your destiny it becomes your life?!

[LitNetIsGreat]

Well I'm glad I've not got to get my wallet out for it. There would have been more than a tad of irony involved don't you think, if the state had foot the bill for such an anti-statist?

[Emil Miller]

Well I'm glad I've not got to get my wallet out for it. There would have been more than a tad of irony involved don't you think, if the state foot the bill for such an anti-statist?

Well another way of looking at it would be to say that she was a nationalist viz. anti federal Europe, and defender of the Falklands; in which case, the nation could well be called on to foot the bill. It's the other lot who are hell bent on destroying the nation state.

[cacian]

Well I'm glad I've not got to get my wallet out for it. There would have been more than a tad of irony involved don't you think, if the state had foot the bill for such an anti-statist?

The irony of it all is that if it were to be a state funeral you would have foot the bill regardless of how you feel. Call that democracy more like hypocrisy.

[TheFifthElement]

Well I'm glad I've not got to get my wallet out for it. There would have been more than a tad of irony involved don't you think, if the state had foot the bill for such an anti-statist?

Neely, the state is going to be footing a significant proportion of the bill. Full details are not known yet, but all that has been said is Thatcher's estate wil be making a 'contribution'. More here http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22077919

[LitNetIsGreat]

The irony of it all is that if it were to be a state funeral you would have foot the bill regardless of how you feel. Call that democracy more like hypocrisy.

Well said!

Neely, the state is going to be footing a significant proportion of the bill. Full details are not known yet, but all that has been said is Thatcher's estate wil be making a 'contribution'. More here http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22077919

Yes Mrs N has just informed me (I've been out all day). Total and utter joke. No money and suddenly 10 million from the state for someone who all but destroyed it and didn't believe it in. Hypocrisy indeed. Have to raid the disabled a little more.

[prendrelemick]

I hope they put it out to tender (the funeral) and sell tickets, and TV rights. Corporate packages available. They could also have sponsers - Coffin by tetrapak- that sort of thing, and turn a profit.

She would approve.

[Volya]

Total and utter joke. No money and suddenly 10 million from the state for someone who all but destroyed it and didn't believe it in. Hypocrisy indeed. Have to raid the disabled a little more.

Where did you get that figure from? And as this article points out, it could easily be argued that the amount Margaret Thatcher did to help the country more than compensates for the funeral costs (I must add that this isn't my view, since I don't actually know a huge amount on what she did, this is just what one article is saying).

[LitNetIsGreat]

Where did you get that figure from? And as this article points out, it could easily be argued that the amount Margaret Thatcher did to help the country more than compensates for the funeral costs (I must add that this isn't my view, since I don't actually know a huge amount on what she did, this is just what one article is saying).

You're kidding right? Trolling or something?

Mrs N mentioned it, read it or seen it somewhere I don't know.

[*Classic*Charm*]

Well said!



Yes Mrs N has just informed me (I've been out all day). Total and utter joke. No money and suddenly 10 million from the state for someone who all but destroyed it and didn't believe it in. Hypocrisy indeed. Have to raid the disabled a little more.

Given the population of GB is ~62 million people, your part of the bill would be roughly 16p. I'm sure you could find someone who's willing to pay you back



I'm sorry, that wasn't very nice. I know that's really not the point.

[Emil Miller]

You're kidding right? Trolling or something?

Mrs N mentioned it, read it or seen it somewhere I don't know.

I have just been to my local Sainsbury's convenience store and the figure of £10 million is the headline of the Daily Mirror. Enough said.

[Volya]

You're kidding right? Trolling or something?

No? What gave you that idea?