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    Suggest me a book like 1984 or Grapes of Wrath

    Would love me some suggestions of more books to read.

    The setting I'm looking for is mostly dark, where some sort of oppression has been imposed on the life of people/narrator, who hopelessly try and fail to defeat it.

    The ending would not be a happy one. Perhaps with a conspiracy or some sort of ideology involved. Steinbeck's "The grapes of wrath" is amazing, but I nearly finished reading it. I think that 1984 by George Orwell is also really good. Maksim Gorky is off the list, as I already read all of it.

    I don't fancy history books, so I rather not read the like. It doesn't need to be about some major ideology imposed on people, either. It could be about a single individual who imposes a set of twisted rules upon himself, only to suffer from them. "Welcome to NHK" by Tatsuhiko Takimoto is a favourite of mine.

    I would be grateful for any suggestions.

    ... also, please don't give any spoilers about either the 1984 or "The grapes of wrath", as I am still reading these two, but desperately need to fill the hole they would produce once finished!

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    Aldous Huxley - Brave New World (most often compared to Orwell's 1984)

    You might not see it, but I read an interesting article years ago aligning the serfdom of Russia (in Tolstoy's Anna Karenina) to the desperate measures taken by the Joad Family (in The Grapes of Wrath)

    A Clockwork Orange (Anthony Burgess) sets the precursor for a 1984ish society as does Lois Lowry's "The Giver", which, although a children's book is one of the best feeders into more intricate literature on the dire consequences of a bureaucratic society.

    As far as desperate measures go, Dostoevsky's "Crime and Punishment" is unanimously considered the best portrait of an individual's despair.

    Tolstoy's "War and Peace" paints a more vivid picture of the emotional and mental debacle of war through the eyes of different Russian families.

    All above works would subscribe to the "dark" literature genre.
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    For books like 1984, you could look up lists of dystopian novels. A few of my favorites include:

    Walden Two
    Brave New World
    The Possibility of an Island
    Infinite Jest


    As for novels in the vein of The Grapes of Wrath, wherein characters struggle against sociopoliticoeconomic oppression, you could try just about all Southern American literature of the first half of the twentieth century!
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    The Takeover by G. C. Edmondson & C. M. Kotlan

    It depends on which facets of 1984 you find interesting. "To Sail the Century Sea by Edmoondson also has features of 1984.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akutagawolf View Post
    Would love me some suggestions of more books to read.

    The setting I'm looking for is mostly dark, where some sort of oppression has been imposed on the life of people/narrator, who hopelessly try and fail to defeat it.

    The ending would not be a happy one. Perhaps with a conspiracy or some sort of ideology involved.
    Sounds like Kafka.
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    The closest cousin I can think of to 1984 is Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler
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    I love 1984 and Grapes of Wrath, too (they're two of my favorite books), so I will be interested to see what answers this thread gets. Brave New World is definitely a great book for the OP, if you've never read it before.

    However, I'm definitely interested in books with that kind of dark tone that these two classics have--I don't necessarily like political or dystopic books any more than any other genre. I just think that book of these books have a very despairing, almost nihilistic tone to them that is what makes them truly unforgettable. At least that's my opinion.

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    If you want something like 1984, then you need to read We.
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    Thomas Hardy is very dark, try "Tess" and "Jude" for starters, but there are several others. His characters certainly try, and fail, to defeat their situations! Conrad is also pretty bleak (Heart of Darkness, Victory....)

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    I'm surprised no one has suggested Fahrenheit 451 yet.
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    Thank you for so many good suggestions!

    Unfortunately, I've already read Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Kafka, Thomas Hardy and a few of South American and South African authors. But the other books will sustain me for another month.

    Feel free to add some more suggestions. I get the idea that a lot of the more recent books covering these themes originate from certain geographic locations, such as Russia, South America and South Africa. It would be interesting to read some less known books, perhaps from East Asia, Middle East and India.

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    Hunger by Knut Hamsun might float your boat. Or perhaps Remainder by Tom McCarthy. Both good, dark reads. Or maybe something by Abe Kobo like The Kangaroo Notebook or The Woman and the Dunes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFifthElement View Post
    Hunger by Knut Hamsun might float your boat. Or perhaps Remainder by Tom McCarthy. Both good, dark reads. Or maybe something by Abe Kobo like The Kangaroo Notebook or The Woman and the Dunes.
    How could I have overlooked Hunger?! A superb example of the human spirit fighting through external circumstances. And there's a good bit of pride and delusion that smacks of the way many Englishmen died in Virginia so may centuries ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf View Post
    I'm surprised no one has suggested Fahrenheit 451 yet.
    Man, I hated that book with a passion. It failed at everything that Brave New World and 1984 accomplished.
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