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    Under a Christmas Tree...

    Every day
    Jesus is being crucified
    On the cross of our silence
    And he won't resurrect again
    For he couldn't hold our sins anymore.
    Sleep tight my world
    Embrace your teddy bear and drink your wine
    But some children have no garlands but bombs
    No light kits but the darkness of their fear.
    Some children have no coffins
    Not a grave stone to lay their head on.
    Hallelujah...
    Sing my world
    But Jesus's star has fallen from your christmas tree
    His grotto is so cold and no one is there
    Bells are ringing in the emptiness and no one could hear.
    Sleep tight my world
    Under your christmas tree
    And dream of yourself
    Holding the cosmos between your hands
    Untill Jesus shakes you to wake up
    And stop dreaming
    Under his christmas tree.
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    This is full of good intentions, but inherently bland with absolutely no sense of pace or rhythm. The notion of suffering or dying children is powerful, but in a nauseating rather than sensitizing way. Aposiopetics and exclamation marks galore destroy whatever value individual lines might have. The idea that religion will shake anyone "awake", when it is in fact the perpetrator of most crimes against humanity, is laughable to say the least.
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    QUOTE=DocHeart;1194473]This is full of good intentions, but inherently bland with absolutely no sense of pace or rhythm.

    Yeh , you're right . I just wrote it in five mnts and published it. If I tried more I could have created sth much better.

    The notion of suffering or dying children is powerful, but in a nauseating rather than sensitizing way.


    Forgive me plz , for I don't know how to make you sympathize not nauseate!!

    Aposiopetics and exclamation marks galore destroy whatever value individual lines might have.

    Thx for this remark , I'll think of it.

    The idea that religion will shake anyone "awake", when it is in fact the perpetrator of most crimes against humanity, is laughable to say the least.

    This is your personal opinion and you're free with it.

    ok, you're right about the exclamation marks.
    What about the punctuation marks ? Shouldn't we be grammatically correct and use the punctuation marks ?
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    Admirable sentiments, up to a point - but holding up Jesus as some super-hero who died for our sins and will return to save us all isn't going to help any of the children you're writing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillwalker View Post
    Admirable sentiments, up to a point - but holding up Jesus as some super-hero who died for our sins and will return to save us all isn't going to help any of the children you're writing about.

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    thx cz you didn't nuseate as Docheart did .'
    at the beginning "i said Jesus won't reurrect again, for he coulldnt hold our sins anymore "
    this is not he who could save us, he only shakes us to wake up
    We should take our reponsibilities as human beings.
    I think even God gets fed with us .
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    Nice to meet you! I think even God gets fed with us - caddy-caddy, if this is what you think, did you ask yourself if it wasn't "a bit of a mistake" to have formed such violent creatures, liable to abolish God's big project of goodness? or, what if, God forbid! that exactly was in that project (violence...)! Well, but, like Hill, I value your noble intentions!
    What is the meaning of "cz"?

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    I'd urge you to focus attention on your poetry rather than your message. I respect the fact they may feel intertwined but it can be a useful exercise to separate the two. I'm of the opinion you have a neat idea which needs re-visiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bar22do View Post
    Nice to meet you! I think even God gets fed with us - caddy-caddy, if this is what you think, did you ask yourself if it wasn't "a bit of a mistake" to have formed such violent creatures, liable to abolish God's big project of goodness? or, what if, God forbid! that exactly was in that project (violence...)! Well, but, like Hill, I value your noble intentions!
    What is the meaning of "cz"?
    [QUOTE=Bar22do;1194773]Nice to meet you! [COLOR="#000080"]I think even God gets fed with us - caddy-caddy, if this is what you think, did you ask yourself if it wasn't "a bit of a mistake" to have formed such violent creatures,




    uptill now He 's still waiting, giving us sometime. But the day will come when He says" time is over my dear creatures" and He'll turn all this world over our heads. For sure He'll get fed with us one day , otherwise He would have allowed us to live here forever. It's just a matter of time. And what seems to us " thousands of years of life" , to God are just a glimpse of a moment. He's not too much patient as we think.

    God allowed violence to survive. Animals are allowed to kill each other to survive. And we're allowed to use violence against animals and nature to survive. We kill millions of animals everyday to eat. What what we call civilization is all violence against nature. But the difference between us and the animals is that a lion kills one another animal if he is really hungry and not more than he needs although he has the power to do so; Man does not use violence to satisfy his needs only ;He uses violence to assert his power over others. Power is his aim not needs . This is man's greed and lust for power .

    Any how forget about Him and let's do our duties as human beings . I think even those who don't like the idea of God uses Him as an excuse and to put the blame on Him in everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Ak View Post
    I'd urge you to focus attention on your poetry rather than your message. I respect the fact they may feel intertwined but it can be a useful exercise to separate the two. I'm of the opinion you have a neat idea which needs re-visiting.

    Honestly ,I don't like didactic literature and didn't want it to be so. But they cornered me and I was obliged to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caddy_caddy View Post
    Every day
    Jesus is being crucified
    On the cross of our silence
    And he won't resurrect again
    For he couldn't hold our sins anymore.
    Sleep tight my world
    Embrace your teddy bear and drink your wine
    But some children have no garlands but bombs
    No light kits but the darkness of their fear.
    Some children have no coffins
    Not a grave stone to lay their head on.
    Hallelujah...
    Sing my world
    But Jesus's star has fallen from your christmas tree
    His grotto is so cold and no one is there
    Bells are ringing in the emptiness and no one could hear.
    Sleep tight my world
    Under your christmas tree
    And dream of yourself
    Holding the cosmos between your hands
    Untill Jesus shakes you to wake up
    And stop dreaming
    Under his christmas tree.
    A very spontaneous free verse rising from the depths of a heart which believes in humanity. Emotions are expressed strongly and without any artificiality which tend to add to the poem's beauty. The poem's message is rather like a moral for the soulful hearts in that they cannot stand cruelty to innocent children and grown ups by indiscriminate killing for a cause, or any cause. If many won't hear the message of the poem Jesus surely would and ,perhaps, rise from his ábode'' against the tyrants who kill children,,,,,,without remorse.

    Since this is a free verse there is least to comment about its style, rhythm or rhyme....or even punctuations. Thanks to Ogden Nash for allowing this liberty to bards!

    Good work, caddy, more power to you!!
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    This presents some heartfelt ax-grinding which is a bit heavy-handed. Though I appreciate the attempt to frame the topic in some kind of poetic form (judicious repetition can be an effective device at time), the piece is rather prose-y.

    Most importantly, this same topic has been already done before, and done beautifully by Lawrence Ferlinghetti, which you should read right this minute:

    http://holytrinitynewrochelle.org/Ch...mbed_Down.html

    ok, you're right about the exclamation marks.
    What about the punctuation marks ? Shouldn't we be grammatically correct and use the punctuation marks ?
    Exclamation points are the garlic of grammar. Using too much of them defeats the purpose.
    Please refer to this after you read the Ferlinghetti poem:

    Down and Dirty Guide to Punctuation:

    http://www.online-literature.com/for...de+Punctuation
    Last edited by AuntShecky; 12-28-2012 at 03:20 PM.

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    I don't visit here as often as perhaps I should.
    Your title drew me in and I'm glad I stopped by.
    Made me take pause for a moment, particularly this:

    "...Embrace your teddy bear and drink your wine
    But some children have no garlands but bombs
    No light kits but the darkness of their fear..."

    Thanks
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    I think this poem will sound very good if turned into a creative non-fiction. Just too prosy--sounding almost like a Christmas sermon--to be a poem.


    "Every day Jesus is being crucified on the cross of our silence and he won't resurrect again for he couldn't hold our sins anymore."
    Last edited by miyako73; 12-28-2012 at 03:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuntShecky View Post
    This presents some heartfelt ax-grinding which is a bit heavy-handed. Though I appreciate the attempt to frame the topic in some kind of poetic form (judicious repetition can be an effective device at time), the piece is rather prose-y.

    Most importantly, this same topic has been already done before, and done beautifully by Lawrence Ferlinghetti, which you should read right this minute:

    http://holytrinitynewrochelle.org/Ch...mbed_Down.html



    Exclamation points are the garlic of grammar. Using too much of them defeats the purpose.
    Please refer to this after you read the Ferlinghetti poem:

    Down and Dirty Guide to Punctuation:

    http://www.online-literature.com/for...de+Punctuation
    Free verse is almost like nice prose....many poets write pretty well in that style becaue it truly and faithfully expresses the feelings of a heart without much brain storming on the mechanical issue related to poetry construction.
    Punctuations is done away by many poets.....as I think it is no more an imperative for good poesy writing or style.. Exclamation marks may sound like drone attacks but a bard sometimes feels like exclaiming when others don't.
    I like the Caddy's poem for being extempore and thematic, free from strings or superficial wording.
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    Auntie, should it be a semi-colon before "and"?


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