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    given a choice which would you preferr

    an epic fifteen verse poem that goes no-where, or a shorter to the point poem

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    Obviously the shorter poem because, by your description, it's the better poem. A better question would be "would you rather read a good epic poem or a good short poem," though it's still a problematic question.

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    Agreed. Also, a quibble - a fifteen verse poem is hardly 'epic'.

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    I don't get 'epic' poems. One might as well write a story.
    Shor and sweet makes more of an impact then a long widing poem.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
    good
    it fly

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    You can go nowhere very succinctly!

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    I prefer short poems that speak volumes. Something like Blake's The Sick Rose.

    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    I don't get 'epic' poems. One might as well write a story.
    The original epics were oral poems. They were composed metrically to aid memorisation and, presumably, to sound aesthetically pleasing when performed. When writing became prevalent the more popular poems, like the Illiad and the Odyssey, were written down. Subsequent literate poets, like Virgil, admired Homer's works so much that they wrote their own poems in a similar manner. Virgil's epic, in turn, was admired and emulated by his successors. The 'point' of later epics is that the poet admires the work of his predecessors and seeks to recreate it in a manner more relevant to his own era, innovating as he sees fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    I don't get 'epic' poems. One might as well write a story.
    Shor and sweet makes more of an impact then a long widing poem.

    I'm assuming you haven't read any of Byron's work.

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    Or would you read 200 short poems with the chance of finding something worthwhile or 1 great epic poem?
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    I don't get the OP's question... if given a choice between bad-and-lengthy and bad-and-short, I'll take the latter, so obviously I'd take good-and-short over bad-and-long. Great, lengthy poems, however, can be transcendental: Paradise Lost, The Aeneid, Don Juan, Intimations of Immortality, Rime of the Ancient Marriner, Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror, The Changing Light at Sandover, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    I don't get 'epic' poems. One might as well write a story.
    Shor and sweet makes more of an impact then a long widing poem.
    Errr, epic poems ARE stories... all narrative poems are stories. They're just stories in verse. Ever read Paradise Lost? Pay attention to how Milton shapes his syntax across the lines and it should become clear the aesthetic advantages a great poet gains by writing a story in verse.
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    I don't get 'epic' poems. One might as well write a story.

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