http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/01/sound-waves.html
cacian, I suggest reading through the above link to better understand how sound works.
http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/01/sound-waves.html
cacian, I suggest reading through the above link to better understand how sound works.
Thanks, Volya. Excellent link.
Thank you for the link.
I was wondering whether it is possible to see and hear at the same time?
Last edited by cacian; 09-13-2012 at 09:42 AM.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
If a book is in a library, and no one is there to read it...is it still literature? But I'm sure many of you would argue about that...and have...
The "fallen tree" question is really an exercise to show how educated (and presumably intelligent) people can discuss the ridiculous.
If the same tree is in the woods in the bright sunshine, is it visible?
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
I introduced it as a more earthly analogy to the original question - did not expect it to derail the whole matter.Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
I wrote a poem on a leaf and it blew away...
I don't think you derail anything, Charles. Have fun.
cacian, it is perfectly possible to see and hear things at the same time... (unless you mean can you see a sound/hear a sight, which you cannot)
Very interesting read. Thanks everyone.
I would like to answer this time question very simply as a musician who deals with time every day.
Without time there could be no music. Music exists.
I would say yes because it is called a book. The title 'book' gives it the literary meaning.QUOTE=BienvenuJDC;1169187]If a book is in a library, and no one is there to read it...is it still literature?
I am not sure I follow.The "fallen tree" question is really an exercise to show how educated (and presumably intelligent) people can discuss the ridiculous.
What do you mean by 'the ridiculous'?
The fact that someone is trying to advance in ensuring that all corners/possibilities of a fallen tree/something that has occured are covered or the fact that one settles for what one sees and hears.
It depends I think.If the same tree is in the woods in the bright sunshine, is it visible?
One need a reason to want to know about visibility.
If I am trying to find out about something then I shall bring an example as a mean to compare and deduct.
Agreed.
The next question is which is faster the seeing or the hearing of the tree?
Sorry about the tree again.
Another of what I mean.
When a phone rings
Does one think 'phone' or does one think 'ringing' ?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Some good answers, but the last one spoils it. What matters reason? It is a resident of both the sober and the drunkard, the mentally healthy and the insane.
"Insanity - a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world." ~ R.D. Laing
Last edited by cafolini; 09-24-2012 at 08:18 AM.
Seeing the tree is faster because light travels faster than sound.
A reason is what drives somebody to do or think something or not.
A motivator.
I could not agree with this because it is hard to match an existing condition."Insanity - a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world." ~ R.D. Laing
It is also up to me to decide whether something is insane or not.
Once I have made up my mind I shall act accordingly to counteract it disperse it or become it.
In other words
I might as well consider taking ballet dancing because ballet dancing is what makes one popular or famous.
I neither take for ballet nor I believe it will make me happy.
I will take up what I feel is right for me.
Secondly insanity by insanity leads to destruction and is totally pointless thinking in my views.
The reason is this:
My actions should be dependent on my judgement first and not because others tell me to.
'when in rome do like the romans'
well I would rather
'when in rome I do like me first then will see'.
Last edited by cacian; 09-24-2012 at 02:33 PM.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Closed case. It took you quite a while to respond. It did not help you nor any listener.
It's not ridiculous, but perfectly sensible. It rests upon the definition of sound being sond waves interpreted by an ear. If there is no ear to interpret the sound, then there is no sound, just vibrations that dissipate without affecting an ear.
The book analogy doesn't work because the book has already been put there and designated already by someone. Whether it is literature is a matter of opinion not phenomenon.
I think it depends how you look at it. If you are saying that it exists of itself, then I would disagree. It cannot exist without other factors such as atmosphere, instruments or voice, ears or vibratory organs, (never mind the trees), and a player. Music, for its existence, depends upon other things, therefore cannot exist of itself.
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