I am not sure but I think the word 'homosexual' only applies to men.Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis
I might be wrong.
I am not sure but I think the word 'homosexual' only applies to men.
I might be wrong.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
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Cacian, it does apply to women. Here is Dictionary.com's definition of homosexual:
1. a person who is sexually attracted to members of the same sex
— adj
2. of or relating to homosexuals or homosexuality
3. of or relating to the same sex
Hwæt! We Gar-Dena in geardagum,/Þeodcuninga þrum gefrunon,/hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon!
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,/ monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,/ egsode eorlas, syððan ærest wearð/ feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad,/ weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,/ oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra/ofer hronrade hyran scolde,/gomban gyldan. Þæt wæs god cyning!
Because these laws were created by straight men and when it comes to two women....well you know.
At least in modern western society - conservative men tend to look at female homosexuality with less disgust than male.
I wrote a poem on a leaf and it blew away...
'Homo' in homosexual is from the Greek, meaning 'the same' (Homonym, homogenised), not from the Latin meaning 'man' (Homo sapiens, homicide).
Oh Damn - so when people say "hey homo" to me they do not mean "Hey man" but something a bit different. I am crestfallen.
I don't think I can call myself Christian anymore. If God will not save those who merely love members of their own sex then I don't know if God is all I think He is. If He really cares about that then he is not the great God of wisdom and love that I take him to be. This discussion is really depressing to me. My faith is helping me so much but I can't imagine the gay people I know not being allowed into heaven just because they are gay. I simply cannot imagine it. I would rather go to hell or into oblivion with them than tell them they are somehow impure or lesser than me.
Last edited by Darcy88; 08-23-2012 at 02:20 AM.
Thanks. I thought ''Homo'' as in French 'Homme' which means men.
Women in French is Femme.
I naturally understood it to be men only.
I have a question:
Isn't the word 'homesexual' in today's society understood to be derogatory for men?
And lesbian only women?
Last edited by cacian; 08-23-2012 at 04:26 AM.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
"lesbian" refers only to homosexual women.
"gay" generally refers to homosexual men--but it will sometimes be used to refer to homosexual women as well. Most of the time, though, it'll just be used for men.
"homosexual" just means "same sex". Could be talking about homosexual men or homosexual women.
Don't let the religious screw religion up for you. People here are quoting a centuries old book written by MEN, not God, to support whatever backwards ideology they may have.
What you outline above is one of the main problems I have with most religions--the idea that if one lives a good life but doesn't follow the silly rules written in some book (going to confession, going to church, getting baptized, praying, etc.) that that person is going to hell. I've said it before: if God does exist, and He's really that big of a dick, I'd rather not go to His heaven.
So, you'll just have to decide how much you want the dictums and people of your chosen religion to affect you. You mentioned you chose to follow Catholicism, if I'm not mistaken, and if one form of Christianity is pretty clear on their feelings towards homosexuals, it's them. Maybe a different sect of Christianity is better for you, or maybe you just want to be your own Christian and not label yourself and strictly follow the teachings and philosophies of Christ . . . something I've found most Christian churches don't do in a lot of ways.
So when your buddy says 'hey hommie', they could be implying a whole lot more....
Before sunlight can shine through a window, the blinds must be raised - American Proverb
Please don't give up your religion over this. Like I said in my previous comments, not all Christians believe homosexuality is a sin, because they don't agree with the translation/interpretation of the Bible, etc. I'm not saying however, that one brand of Christianity is better than another. They're just different.
So, like Mutatis said, maybe Catholicism is not for you. Maybe you should try a non-denominational church that also welcomes gays?
Please don't allow what I've said to depress you. I wasn't trying to say that everyone has to believe the way I do. I sincerely was trying to defend my position. It can be very depressing thinking that most of my family and friends probably will not be joining me in heaven, if what I believe is accurate. You may not think it's accurate, I do, and really that's okay. I've learned to accept it and you really don't have to agree with me if you don't want to.
Hwæt! We Gar-Dena in geardagum,/Þeodcuninga þrum gefrunon,/hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon!
Oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,/ monegum mægþum, meodosetla ofteah,/ egsode eorlas, syððan ærest wearð/ feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad,/ weox under wolcnum, weorðmyndum þah,/ oðþæt him æghwylc þara ymbsittendra/ofer hronrade hyran scolde,/gomban gyldan. Þæt wæs god cyning!
Darcy, the largest Protestant denomination in Canada, the United Church of Canada, is largely gay affirming. The BC branch of the Anglicans are pretty liberal too. The UCC comes out of the social gospel movement, so it is pretty left leaning on all issues.
Last edited by OrphanPip; 08-23-2012 at 08:59 AM.
"If the national mental illness of the United States is megalomania, that of Canada is paranoid schizophrenia."
- Margaret Atwood
It is another very good point you bring here Shea.Please don't allow what I've said to depress you. I wasn't trying to say that everyone has to believe the way I do. I sincerely was trying to defend my position. It can be very depressing thinking that most of my family and friends probably will not be joining me in heaven, if what I believe is accurate. You may not think it's accurate, I do, and really that's okay. I've learned to accept it and you really don't have to agree with me if you don't want to.
One has many beliefs and every belief is different.
I believe not in punishement and hatred towards people on the ground of differences manners or actions and I believe there is a God too.
I doubt that the Bible is the final words of God and doubt the Bible being accurate let alone true. This does not stop me from believing there is a higher being a God that does not give toss whether you are straight forward or gay.
Are my belief accurate?
As far as I know yes because none of my beliefs implicate judgement or prejudice against others.
My beliefs do not prevent me from living amongst differences on the contrary my beliefs allow me to live and let live and not judge or say this is right or wrong so long as they are not hurting me or others.
Is my belief reflect a good deed and shows that I am a responsbile believer?
Yes I think it does.
Now why would a God punish me or others for believing something different from someone?
It makes no sense.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Who wouldn't? Really, if Heaven existed and was just for those who followed every single law in the Old and New Testament, it would be like spending an eternity in the most awkward doctor's waiting room you have ever been in.
But don't let the fact that certain sects pick and choose whatever rules they want to follow out of an outdated book stop you from believing: that is not religion. It's deciding what makes you happy in life. For some people, the best thing in life is having that community that religious institutions provide. The idea of "we must follow this and that law" is secondary to "we are here together, and we like each other, and we support each other, and we know God supports us" - that's religion (or religious institutions).
I was never exposed to such a community, and my earlier encounters with religious types were the ones who lorded their superiority over everyone and who blatantly hated others because their book told them to. I knew that this was nothing I wanted. But I am well read when it comes to several religions, and have amalgamated a concept of god(s) that works for me.
Last edited by Charles Darnay; 08-23-2012 at 09:46 AM.
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