What Attracts You First? Poll #2 for Men Only

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

Agreed. Ridding the world of prostitution is about as likely as ridding the night sky of its stars. As long as there are men in this world with money there will be prostitution. Its natural. What we should focus on is protecting the women who provide this service, guaranteeing as best we can their health and their safety.

Yep. Which is why it should be legalized. If it's legal, it can be regulated and controlled.

I've never really seen it as a degrading profession.

[Emil Miller]

[QUOTE=Mutatis-Mutandis;1153853] Yeah. I know me and my other ugly friends are just getting laid all the time. Chicks are just throwing themselves at us. [QUOTE]

Whether a man is ugly or not isn't the point, if he waits for women to throw themselves at him, he will probably have a long wait.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

All I'm saying is that for a lot of guys, it is much, much easier just to pay for it. It seemed like you're suggesting going out and hooking up with a woman is no big deal, something real easy to do. Well, maybe for some guys, but not everyone. And looks sometimes don't even play into it. Some guys are shy, or a bit socially awkward, especially in bars and clubs. If it was that easy, I doubt business for prostitutes would be as good as it is.

[Darcy88]

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[tonywalt]

I am considered mega-good-looking, and I have the ability to charm almost any woman.....but when I am actually in a bar (which is a rare event) I usually stutter and stammer and make a fool of myself. There are guys who are objectively nowhere near as good looking as me who are way better with the ladies. I don't mind it though. The girls who reject me for stuttering and stammering simply are not the kind of girls I would want to be with. The stuttering and stammering is almost a kind of test. If a girl can handle being in public with one as awkward as me then I know I have found someone very special, someone I can love and be with.

It's no great secret that that it's 90% charm and social dynamics. And that's a pretty good criteria you have for filtering potential partners-you will know it when you know it.

[PoeticPassions]

Edit:

I must rant on looks and how ridiculously obsessed our society is with looks. Most of the women I have loved in my life have been girl next door types. Beautiful but nothing like the super-model ideal we see on television. The super-model ideal, the skinny, vapid, sick-looking super-model ideal is one of the most powerful dark forces currently menacing society. And the truly absurd thing is that it is not at all attractive or natural. I like a woman with a full figure. I could love and be with a woman who is skinny, but I know I'd constantly be trying to fatten her up. Whenever I do have a girlfriend I find myself acting like a father and encouraging my partner to eat, eat, eat. I know obesity is a huge problem too, and I am turned off somewhat by obesity in women, but I would prefer my partner to be 10 or 15 pounds overweight than vapid and sickly and striving to fulfill the super-model ideal. Its all about health and in my opinion health is best presented in a full figure, not a super-skinny one. I really sympathize with women. They have thrust upon them from one end the supermodel ideal and then from the other they have junk food manufacturers trying to get them to eat fattening unhealthy foods. Its sad, its a problem and I pray it somehow alleviates.

Thanks for this side rant, Darcy. I agree with you. I feel bad for all of the little girls growing up in this world... but my perceptions growing up were also really shaped by the media, and I constantly struggle with my body image, food, etc.

I think I look really healthy and I exercise and eat relatively well, but I still feel pretty self-conscious. Anyway, good post.

[Mutatis-Mutandis]

I, too, am not into the super-model look. Sure, they're beautiful and a pleasure to look at, but I just don't think I'd be interested in a relationship with one (going into extreme hypotheticals, here). I too like the girl next door look much more. One of my favorite actresses, in terms of looks, right now is Emma Stone. I think she's beautiful, but not I the classical sense at all. She's unusual looking in some ways, and she even has a slight lisp, but that just makes her sexier to me. I like the flaws in women, and I hate when they want to get plastic surgery. A buddy of mine's girlfriend, who's quite cool and pretty, wants to get a nose-job because there's a slight bump on the ridge of her nose. I think the bump looks great. Why'd you want to change that? I told her so, but she's convinced herself it has to go.

It's a shame how girls are programmed to think about their bodies. I saw first hand the attitudes, the stress, the anal-retentiveness on the minorest of details, the teasing, the cruelty, the low self-esteem young girls deal with in my short time teaching high school. Some do manage to put themselves above all that and just be themselves and not worry about conforming to the extremes, but most don't, unfortunately.

[Darcy88]

Thanks for this side rant, Darcy. I agree with you. I feel bad for all of the little girls growing up in this world... but my perceptions growing up were also really shaped by the media, and I constantly struggle with my body image, food, etc.

I think I look really healthy and I exercise and eat relatively well, but I still feel pretty self-conscious. Anyway, good post.

I'm glad you and others seem to have enjoyed that rant. It angers me to no end. When I am a father I will probably have to meditate hours a day and take pharmaceutical medications in order to cope with the harsh bombardment women in my and all cultures receive when it comes to other people telling them how they need to look.

[Babyguile]

There was talk in the media where some industry big-shots were proposing the legalisation of prostitution in London for the duration of the Olympic Games. The main line of argument being that it could drastically reduce the number of young girls and boys being trafficked into the country, and also it would mean the business could be regulated which could alleviate most of the health issues surrouding the practice.

I'm not against prostitution on any moral grounds and I think anyone who judges another person in an aloof, pseudo-superior manner needs a good smack in the mouth. But legalising it means legitimizing it, and with all the talk in this thread about bad influences on young girls, I'm not sure to agree with this proposal is a wise move. Also the man who was making these proposals was eventually laughed out of the country.

[Delta40]

Mary Ann always won the most preferred wife vote over Ginger in Gilligans Island

[Emil Miller]

It's no great secret that that it's 90% charm and social dynamics. And that's a pretty good criteria you have for filtering potential partners-you will know it when you know it.

Charm is a quality that's difficult to quantify but social interaction is definitely the heart of the matter.

[Scheherazade]

Whether a man is ugly or not isn't the point, if he waits for women to throw themselves at him, he will probably have a long wait.

All I'm saying is that for a lot of guys, it is much, much easier just to pay for it. It seemed like you're suggesting going out and hooking up with a woman is no big deal, something real easy to do.

Maybe Emil has a different kind of clubbing in his mind:

[Darcy88]

Maybe Emil has a different kind of clubbing in his mind:

Hahahaha.

[Emil Miller]

Maybe Emil has a different kind of clubbing in his mind:

A little psychology will afford a much better result than brute force.

[tonywalt]

Mary Ann always won the most preferred wife vote over Ginger in Gilligans Island

I always loved Mary Ann, Ginger would have been a nightmare. My first, umm, awareness of females was Mary Ann in re runs. (Also, I dream of Jeanie and Bewitched -both