In their defense, growing up in absolute poverty and spending most of your adult life as a soldier ordered to kill or be killed, may somewhat make rape less frowned upon considering the general context of brutality in many of these mens lives.Originally Posted by cacian
well I mean the sole reason the Sun is about is because of money .
It is at all cost that this cheap sleazy paper makes money out of the ignorant or to be ignorant individuals who are easily lured to cheap and nasty reads.
The cheaper it is the better money it makes is the bottom story. In the long run the breed of people you bring is as cheap if not cheaper then the paper itself. You make your bed and you lie on it only ensure that the bugs don't bite or would they?!
Last edited by cacian; 06-16-2012 at 04:01 AM.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Effectively we are saying that large portions of society should not like the things they actually like.
The product is there because the market demands it - or better stated, prefers it to healthier news.
Last edited by tonywalt; 06-15-2012 at 04:41 PM.
What we have here is a classic case of "ignorance is bliss" and I'm becoming increasingly aware that it may well be the case, because the weight of experience can be very weighty indeed, but when I see headlines such as 'Up Yours Delors' and 'Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster', an inner voice says: 'Don't give in, help keep the flame of sanity alive by rejecting this nonsense for the bollocks it is.
Last edited by Emil Miller; 06-15-2012 at 06:12 PM.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Does the market really demand it, I'm not so sure? People can be brainwashed so easily. I think the general public can demand what they are told to demand. The Sun is the perfect example. Absolute barrel of all reading material.
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I remember the Liverpool disaster very clearly despite being only nine or ten at the time. I only live a mile up the road from the Hillsborough ground and did so at the time. As a kid I remember the panic of the fans as they fled up the road. I can still remember the shock on their faces, it has stayed with me so. Some fans borrowed our phone to phone home to tell family they were OK and not crushed to death like their friends.
The Sun made up total lies about the fans in order to sell a few more papers on the day, as it says in the link. Absolute disgrace. To put this in perspective, can you imagine an American newspaper making up lies in a similar way about the victims on 911? For example, by saying that office workers were stealing from each other or urinating on the fire fighters who were trying to help them? This is akin to what The Sun printed. Would you buy that boobs or not?
Even so, and without any of that, it is a rag that speaks to the lowest element and consequently sells about five million copies a day....
So no, despite it proudly displaying 'Debbie from Essex, 19" and her big boobies, I would never, and have never, bought this disgrace of a paper. Hell I don't even buy 'good' papers. The Guardian online is my reading material, which is not bad at times - at best.
Rupert Murdoch told The Le'eson Inquiry that i you wanted to know his attitude and philosophy concerning newspapers, you only had to read The Sun
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actually the public did not demand a paper such as the sun , it was someone else's idea to make it sell it cheap and get fiilthy rich.
If it is there then people will buy and if it is not, like the news of the world which is no longer, then people will stop buying it.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
what is there to read though?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
To use laymans terms - think of it as a democracy. The Sun is there because the people want it. Whether or not the former takes advantage of the latter, or if the former is just merely satisfying the needs of the latter is a different debate.
I mean we criticizes the Sun, but it clearly provides entertainment for a large segment of the british population, maybe The Sun is just the logical conclusion of the post-modern world.
But here is the problem with that string of thought: the readers of the Sun are a large segment of british population, whom we trust to: have and raise children, to vote and to shape our democracy, carry out jobs which are necessary to society, drive cars, buy property, ect. but they are to stupid to read a paper they like, because they have been manipulated into reading another paper?
If the latter is true would not that cast doubt on their ability to do the former things which are far more important than what paper one reads.
An interesting side note to this thread concerns the the problem of illiteracy. It has been difficult to escape the flurry of information regarding the increase in illiteracy in the UK over the last few years, although statistics vary to the extent that they are virtually useless. However, if illiteracy is on the increase, the Sun, which may be the only contact with the printed word many of its 3.5 million readers experience, does offer a semblance of literacy for its readers. With newspaper circulation in dramatic decline, including the Sun, would its disappearance increase the illiteracy rate ?
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Now there's an interesting paradox!With newspaper circulation in dramatic decline, including the Sun, would its disappearance increase the illiteracy rate ?
Funny! It's sort of like neutering a section of the population - in a way.
If that was all that was needed to seel newspapers then the punters may as well buy The Daily Star
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They still have their text speak, which is on course to become mainstream English imho.
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