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    Exclamation The Sun Newspaper?

    would the Sun newspaper be as popular if there were no page 3 girl?
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
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    I don't know this paper, have never read it but have read about it. I did read somewhere that George Harrison got the idea for one of his songs when this paper came one morning and he started singing 'here comes the sun'. Don't know if it's true but I like it when inspiration comes from odd things a bit off topic though,

    I am guessing page three has a pretty lady
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helga View Post
    I don't know this paper, have never read it but have read about it. I did read somewhere that George Harrison got the idea for one of his songs when this paper came one morning and he started singing 'here comes the sun'. Don't know if it's true but I like it when inspiration comes from odd things a bit off topic though,

    I am guessing page three has a pretty lady
    Hi Helga page three has a topless lady on a daily basis.
    Nice story though you gave there, one I do not know about oh look up or google the sun newspaper to get an idea of what I am talking about.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
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    it fly

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    Quote Originally Posted by cacian View Post
    would the Sun newspaper be as popular if there were no page 3 girl?
    The word newspaper is something of a misnomer as there is very little news in the Sun unless, that is, you consider 'celebrity' title tattle and football as news items. It does have an interesting genesis though because it was formerly the voice of the British labouring class under the title of the Daily Herald. Drearily left-wing, it tended to take itself too seriously and came across as a sort of poor man's Guardian and started losing circulation at the start of the 1960s. Enter Rupert Murdoch, a high flyer from the antipodes with an eye to the main chance and an instinctive realisation that it's readers didn't want lengthy reports on union disputes and Labour party gatherings but the spurious glamour of big boobs and razzmatazz. Decked out in its new tabloid format with lots of tinsel and its journalism simplified to the level of a cave dweller's comprehension it took of like a rocket from Cape Canaveral and Rupe never looked back.
    Whether it would be as popular without the boobs is a moot point but it wouldn't make any difference to me because I have never bought it.
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    No amount of topless women would make this sorry excuse for a news paper any more or less successful in Liverpool: http://www.anfieldroad.com/dont-buy-the-sun/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckthorn View Post
    No amount of topless women would make this sorry excuse for a news paper any more or less successful in Liverpool: http://www.anfieldroad.com/dont-buy-the-sun/
    wow that is pretty horrid but the fact of the matter is it is still out there being bought and that is the attitude that lots of real people have to deal with.
    it may never try
    but when it does it sigh
    it is just that
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    We have a Sun newspaper in Alberta too, and it's just shyte. Terrible puns for headlines, and the headlines never have anything to do with the photos. So, like, the headline might read "Natural Porn Killer" (seriously, that's the pun they went with for Luka Rocco Magnotta) and then undearneath that will be a picture of the women's softball league winning the championship or something. Confusing, disconcerting, poorly-managed.

    We have a "page three girl" sorta, except they're fully clothed and are called the "sunshine girl." They just find a pretty lady on the streets of Edmonton and usually snap a picture of her then and there. My momma was a sunshine girl once in the '90s.
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    Most of the news mediums today (with the exception of the BBC and CBC) has followed the path of The Sun.

    Hearst did founded a similiar type of journalism in the US, with an even more pronounced agenda-for example stirring up the Spanish American War. Real Yellow journalism with jingoism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf View Post
    We have a Sun newspaper in Alberta too, and it's just shyte. Terrible puns for headlines, and the headlines never have anything to do with the photos. So, like, the headline might read "Natural Porn Killer" (seriously, that's the pun they went with for Luka Rocco Magnotta) and then undearneath that will be a picture of the women's softball league winning the championship or something. Confusing, disconcerting, poorly-managed.

    We have a "page three girl" sorta, except they're fully clothed and are called the "sunshine girl." They just find a pretty lady on the streets of Edmonton and usually snap a picture of her then and there. My momma was a sunshine girl once in the '90s.
    LOL what a story I enjoyed reading thi thanks!!
    I agree however that pictures and the articles don't match it is that bad!!!
    it may never try
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    I never understood why the page 3 girl made so much difference, I mean maybe in Africa where they lack basic human rights like 24 hour access to high-speed internet, but nowadays in the civilized world, in less than 10 seconds and with 3 clicks you have access to an archive of every possible sexual fantasy one could want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonywalt View Post
    Most of the news mediums today (with the exception of the BBC and CBC) has followed the path of The Sun.

    Hearst did founded a similiar type of journalism in the US, with an even more pronounced agenda-for example stirring up the Spanish American War. Real Yellow journalism with jingoism.
    Jingoism is a brilliant word haha
    it may never try
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    it is just that
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonywalt View Post
    Most of the news mediums today (with the exception of the BBC and CBC) has followed the path of The Sun.

    Hearst did founded a similiar type of journalism in the US, with an even more pronounced agenda-for example stirring up the Spanish American War. Real Yellow journalism with jingoism.
    There are still reputable newspapers which are usually broadsheets rather than tabloids, of which the Sun is a particularly regrettable example. Nevertheless, you are right about Hearst. who entered into a fight for circulation with another press baron, Joseph Pulitzer, who started yellow journalism.
    Here is a short extract from Citizen Kane (Hearst) that illustrates Hearst's involvement in the Spanish American war.

    http://youtu.be/tzhb3U2cONs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    I never understood why the page 3 girl made so much difference, I mean maybe in Africa where they lack basic human rights like 24 hour access to high-speed internet, but nowadays in the civilized world, in less than 10 seconds and with 3 clicks you have access to an archive of every possible sexual fantasy one could want.
    Yea, but in Africa you can get a real girl in 10 seconds and 3 clicks-sometimes 2 clicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonywalt View Post
    Yea, but in Africa you can get a real girl in 10 seconds and 3 clicks-sometimes 2 clicks.
    that is pretty sad and it is in my eyes criminal.
    it may never try
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    Then again, if it were not for newspapers like the Sun, many people I know (including family members) would never read a newspaper. Tabloid news and splashy news channels have created new markets with entertainment based news programs.

    The corporate takeover of news is really up for scutiny, thankfully many are still family owned (NY Times-still held in multi generational trust) and have not caved in to dumming down or dimissing vital information.

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