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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    Again, I'd bring up the context that Clinton was trying to award a poet whose life and work was at complete odds with the actions of his administration.

    Her poetics aside, I think it's perfectly reasonable to refuse an award from the representative of a party that supported anti-gay legislation like DOMA, and was engaging in bombing of Iraq the year before, if you are an avowed lesbian and pacifist. Why would you accept an award from someone who shows complete disregard for your values and who you are?
    She gives too much credit to her. From my understanding, she was mainly protesting the decision to cut on the National Endowment of the Arts, and for various anti-gay legislation. The vote, ironically, was proposed by Newt Gingrich of all people, who is a Republican, and not the Clinton administration. As for the wars in Iraq, well, why don't we throw all of the country into that equation?

    The kids she teaches in her classes are educated in the universities and public schools funded by programs run by state administrations, and governing boards of directors. The country itself generates income and spends money in regard to the military machine, the same thing which pours tons of funding into the arts, as well as keeps private universities like the ones she taught at afloat with huge funding grants.

    Clinton himself is the example of a marginalized person working through the power of American success to achieve the impossible, even more so than the more credited Obama seems to have been, and is not responsible for all the ails of the world. If you want to protest, you accept your award, and you tell the public, I accept it because I hope that my presence will make the administration change for the better, and because I think for change, like everybody knows, you need to work on all levels from within as well as from outside.


    There is nothing wrong with accepting a reward by the government for artistic contribution, it is actually a great honor, and can be used for the betterment of these so called marginalized voices. The woman is overrated, and addicted to the sound of her own voice. She died, and nobody heard, good.


    Besides which, this isn't the problem, she is dead now, the question is, whether or not such marginalization and melodrama warrant us appreciating her poetry. As it is, I feel there is very little inside her poetry to make one want to read it. There are far better examples of poets working within the same vein and generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBI View Post
    Besides which, this isn't the problem, she is dead now, the question is, whether or not such marginalization and melodrama warrant us appreciating her poetry. As it is, I feel there is very little inside her poetry to make one want to read it. There are far better examples of poets working within the same vein and generation.
    I don't really care about most of this thread, but can you give some examples of people you think are working in the same vein in her generation that have better work? Just cause I think it'd be interesting--not saying I disagree with you.
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    Well, Gwendolyn MacEwan, Elizabeth Bishop to an extent (Especially in Rich's earlier career), Margaret Avison, Phyllis Webb, etc. For feminist poetics, there are numerous other ones, from all races and creeds, many of which come from far more marginalized backgrounds than Rich, and yet offer much richer poetics, such as Rita Dove.

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    Adrienne Rich

    "Adrienne Rich, a poet of towering reputation and towering rage, whose work — distinguished by an unswerving progressive vision and a dazzling, empathic ferocity — brought the oppression of women and lesbians to the forefront of poetic discourse and kept it there for nearly a half-century, died on Tuesday at her home in Santa Cruz, Calif. She was 82." --- obituary -- by
    MARGALIT FOX

    Published: March 28, 2012 --- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/bo...pagewanted=all
    WAIT by Adrienne Rich 1929–2012
    In paradise every
    the desert wind is rising
    third thought
    in hell there are no thoughts
    is of earth
    sand screams against your government
    issued tent hell’s noise
    in your nostrils crawl
    into your ear-shell
    wrap yourself in no-thought
    wait no place for the little lyric
    wedding-ring glint the reason why
    on earth
    they never told you { http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/180085 }
    Last edited by quasimodo1; 05-30-2012 at 05:47 PM. Reason: attribution
    "I feel I am free but I know I am not" Emil Cioran

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