in other words do people learn/understand and then adapt to avoid conflict by watching/reading/hearing about conflict?
in other words do people learn/understand and then adapt to avoid conflict by watching/reading/hearing about conflict?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Well now that MarkBastable has mentioned it, this does appear absolutely absurd. Which illustrates the point that we're just monkeys screaming and flinging poo at each other.
Still, it's cathartic.
J
well I would not want to spoil your pleasures , but I never considered myself anything but me and so with all due respects I think monkeys are more higherarchical and better organised that one thinks.Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts
When animals are put behind bars they behave in the way you have just described , when left in their right environment they are behaved and better then a human.
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it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Ah, touché. However valid your counterpoint is, please know there was no personal offense intended. In fact, that was a global insult aimed at the entire human race. Trust in that. JoH has been an insult to the human race for years now.
J
Point taken and yes I can understand where you are coming from.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
I thought you meant whether conflict itself resolves conflict. Will a heated argument over something settle the conflict or does it just temporarily clear the air and put the underlying issue on ice till a later time. In that context I would say that conflict does not resolve conflict.
Before sunlight can shine through a window, the blinds must be raised - American Proverb
Strength can sometimes resolve conflict by which I mean the willingness to endure conflict for a cause - particularly if there is a clear rightness/ wrongness.
I have in mind face to face confrontations where you have to stand your ground in order to prevent/ enable something. Sometimes you find yourself in a situation, or observing a situation, where someone is being threatened or hurt. If you can accept the possibility of conflict in order to try to help someone - then you should. (If you can't - or are unable to match someone, then another way has to be found).
Yes I agree that is one of the ways of making a conflict worser.
What I meant by my question was would a film/a story/a documentary that shows conflict in all its gory detailsd help anyone understand and avoid conflict or is there another way better way, less confrontational?
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
I think violence begets more violence, as a rule.
There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written or badly written. ~Oscar Wilde.
the golden one? haha
I agree that what comes around goes around in this case.
It is what you put in the pudding that is its proof.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
I would have to say no. I'm reminded of walking into the laundromat; there's a show on the Tele, it's a cop show or something. There's a cop who's questioning some alleged criminal or apprehending someone. But of course there's no clear lines and . . well you know. Anyway, there's a lot of anger, a lot of harsh tones, a lot of all of that. And that's what you hear, what goes into your sub-conscious. Now, all these shows have the noble goals, triumph over crime, etc. etc. But what you hear and absorb is the anger, the harsh tones, the violence, the conflict.
I think peace solves conflict. A person who is peaceful can bring peace to a conflicted situation, and it's perhaps the only way to do so. A person reading Walt Whitman will do more peace making and conflict resolving than a person who watches shows centered on conflict - that's an oversimplification. A person who reads Walt Whitman is taking into their mind and psyche more positive things, and less negative things, that will influence them towards peace, rather than a person watching shows centered on conflict.
Well, I mean, it technically does though. If everyone except you is dead (because you killed them), conflict resolved.
Also, debate has obvious benefits. Imagine if no one ever debated anything, goodbye democratic system.
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-Pi
I'm not referring to conflict resolution where all parties are actively engaged in bringing the conflict to the table in order to seek a peaceful outcome.
Debate occurs at diverse levels and while I agree that it can be healthy, it can also become destructive, violent and disrespectful. Nobody gains anything from this sort of conflict.
Before sunlight can shine through a window, the blinds must be raised - American Proverb
well I am not sure because you are then totally on your own,what do you do then?=JuniperWoolf;1136853]Well, I mean, it technically does though. If everyone except you is dead (because you killed them), conflict resolved.
the obvious answer is to say well try and find more conflict to occupy yourself because that is the only thing you know and you are used to, but and there is always a but, you have gotten rid of all possiblie conflictees.
what to do what to do?! is the question or the conflict itself.
I agree debate is the heart of ,not democratic because is not an acquired right, but a ritual, nature's intended state for the human sense.Also, debate has obvious benefits. Imagine if no one ever debated anything, goodbye democratic system.
Debate is a natural manner in which humans are to be, a way of being to get across a point or an idea and ultimately to actually get on to a same level of headedeness if you like.
it may never try
but when it does it sigh
it is just that
good
it fly
Well, it is difficult to avoid the mud once someone starts flinging it without giving up your position completely. Here, I'll give you a hypothetical scenario: let's say you're in an online discussion about something you have a vested interest in, you've thought and read about this a lot and now you're looking forward to debating it openly with people of widely varying mindsets when you're engaged by someone who sprinkles each of his rebuttles with degrading personal comments about... oh, let's say... your culture, your age and your gender identity, while at the same time copiously and openly insulting your intelligence. In this one again hypothetical scenario, how would you proceed and maintain dignity while at the same time progressing the debate?
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
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