ABC is left wing? Seriously?
ABC is left wing? Seriously?
And CNN too. Anderson Cooper is a regular Karl Marx, Wolf Blitzer the Lenin of our time.Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
Haha. It's embarassing that many of my fellow Americans don't know left from right. Sesame Street has failed them.
Must make for a traffic accident prone people.
Dishonest entails a lot of things, manipulation and cheap tactics can come under such a label.
The claims of 'lies' is your only point, and yes, the people who claimed outright lies haven't responded in detail, but Orphanpip's reference to politifact ( an organisation which is not without criticism) mentioned he scored well on his latest movie...here's the link:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...vie-factcheck/
Nothing on any of his other movies, nothing on his books, nothing on his speeches and public appearances. No, simply one page on his latest film (probably the film that's received the least heat) that examines about 9 facts. Hell, the site itself says Moore used selective statistics to distort the Reagan era.
Are there other links on this 'objective' fact-checking site about all his other work that I've missed? There may be and I'm certainly happy to read them.
I'll have to let the people who claimed 'outright lies' defend themselves, but you've hardly proven much.
However, what we can see, is that there are definitely some concerns over Moore's 'honesty' in the larger, non-technical sense of the word.
Last edited by Pierre Menard; 03-11-2012 at 12:03 AM.
Vladimir: (sententious.) To every man his little cross. (He sighs.) Till he dies. (Afterthought.) And is forgotten.
I watch them ever time they're on. I've learned more about the media and our political system from their two shows, Daily Show in particular, than from anything else. They're hilarious shows, but they also kind of make me sick from time to time.
Also, as far as I know, Comedy Central doesn't shows The Simpsons, fyi.
The Canadian version does ("The Comedy Network").
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
Simpsons on Comedy NETWORK?? You kooky Canadians.
Haha, we get Todd and the Book of Pure Evil too (which I think you'd actually really like, it's about metal heads that live in a town which was created by Satanists). No Trailer Park Boys, though.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
That does sound like something I'd like.
If you compare Moore to his ideological counterparts - Beck, Oreilley, Coulter, Limbaugh - in the true Ponochiocal sense of honesty, his nose is perhaps a bit bigger than normal, a veritable schnoz, but those others have noses that stretch to infinity, noses illimitable across deserts and oceans and way off into the outer reaches of space.
If you want to get down to the heart of the matter, as a political figure in the American mainstream, compared to almost all others, the man is a saint, a noble man of truth and integrity, decked out in his plaid shirts and blue jeans as one holier than any white virgin robed Pope. Jesus and Buddha and Confucius themselves would all supplicate at Moore's spotless balmy feet and seek his sagacious council on moral matters, if Moore was considered against the back-drop before which he speaks and writes and directs. Context matters.
Last edited by Darcy88; 03-11-2012 at 01:40 AM.
Can we just agree to disagree on this one?
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Damnit Bien! You quoted me before I had applied the last few essential strokes to that masterpiece! All is ruined! Ah, the horror, the inhumanity. I curse thee!
Oh and yeah, agree to disagree. Sounds good.
But how could you disagree? What I wrote seems reasonable to me. Self-evident in fact.
*Sarcasm off
Last edited by Darcy88; 03-11-2012 at 01:47 AM.
I won't admit to it, but I probably did it on purpose...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Ahh, Trailer Park Boys. Funny thing is growing up my two best friends were so similar to Ricky and Julian. Travis was as stupid as Ricky and many who first saw him said "omg you look like Ricky off Trailer Park Boys." And then the other guy always wore a black t-shirt, had hair just like Julian, and I kid you not had invariably in his hand at home or in a bar a rum and coke. And he was like this before a mutual friend turned him on to the show. Plus living in a trailer, having a dope-growing father, and being overall pretty white-trash myself, the show really resonated with me. I haven't watched it in a while. I wonder if they're still making new episodes.
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