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    I don't swear with the intention of offending someone. I do it once in a while to punctuate or add flare to a conversation. It's hilarious because I'm adorable.

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    This whole argument may have been avoided if the word "weak" wasn't used, Or misinterpreted, because it implies that women are inherently worse than men. I think maybe it would be more accurate to say that women (may) need more protection because they are often a target because they are [I]seen[/] as weak..

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    I said they are not weak. You misread it and I understand. My viewpoint is not savoury.

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    I think that Darcy made a very logical point in this thread.
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    I think there's good in both viewpoints. I consider myself a strong woman in many areas; mentally, creatively, even physically. I will never be some super mega muscle woman though. I've been vulnerable many times. I would never say that I need someone else to protect me, but it certainly isn't bad if someone wants to, and at times people have.

    As for being offended by swearing, I don't think anyone should be. Perception is what gives weight to words. If you consider a word to be powerless, it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin View Post
    As for being offended by swearing, I don't think anyone should be.
    Actually, there is one word that will usually offend me. That word is 'retard'. I don't care for the incorrect use of the word 'retarded' used to imply stupid, because the word does not mean that. I have a sweet little girl that will probably never understand the intent of those words, but I will always understand what is meant by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    I think that Darcy made a very logical point in this thread.
    Thanks Bien. Its not fun arguing somewhat heatedly in multiple threads with multiple individuals both of whom I greatly respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Thanks Bien. Its not fun arguing somewhat heatedly in multiple threads with multiple individuals both of whom I greatly respect.
    Not to mention that the "bully" types will usually target women (and leave most men alone), based purely on their own perceptions that they are an easier target. Or sometimes an attractive woman may be targeted because of her beauty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    Actually, there is one word that will usually offend me. That word is 'retard'. I don't care for the incorrect use of the word 'retarded' used to imply stupid, because the word does not mean that. I have a sweet little girl that will probably never understand the intent of those words, but I will always understand what is meant by them.
    I understand that. Advocacy is one of the best things that humans do. Still, sometimes a person is better served by pitying and shunning bigots, rather than engaging them in discourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin View Post
    I understand that. Advocacy is one of the best things that humans do. Still, sometimes a person is better served by pitying and shunning bigots, rather than engaging them in discourse.
    Discourse nothing...I was thinking about knocking their block off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Thanks Bien. Its not fun arguing somewhat heatedly in multiple threads with multiple individuals both of whom I greatly respect.
    Really? I found it great fun. Don't mistake my sarcastic tone for anger or hostility, it's just me. I thought it was a pretty good back-and-forth, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    Many people do, especially Americans. I can't say it worries me much.

    What would you have done if someone had said that to you? Or Darcy, what would you have done?
    Punched him, anything else is cowardice.

    But thats just me, I value dignity and honor.

    Another man may value not feeling pain over his dignity and honor. Thats fine too, but I don't like that mentality. That we are just flesh and bones and that honor is a ussless virtue. Ofcourse honor can lead to another extreem. Where every man who looks at you in a slightly suspicious way you attack them. But I would rather be mad than a coward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    Punched him, anything else is cowardice.

    But thats just me, I value dignity and honor.

    Another man may value not feeling pain over his dignity and honor. Thats fine too, but I don't like that mentality. That we are just flesh and bones and that honor is a ussless virtue. Ofcourse honor can lead to another extreem. Where every man who looks at you in a slightly suspicious way you attack them. But I would rather be mad than a coward.
    …or dead. Pistols at dawn!

    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    Actually, there is one word that will usually offend me. That word is 'retard'. I don't care for the incorrect use of the word 'retarded' used to imply stupid, because the word does not mean that. I have a sweet little girl that will probably never understand the intent of those words, but I will always understand what is meant by them.
    That’s exactly what I was talking about earlier. True swearing is meant to offend. It’s got nothing to do intrinsically with the word itself. Calling a stupid person a retard (or a sensitive fat girl a pig, or a black guy a monkey, or a gay guy a Twinkie) is meant to offend and therefore is swearing. But a bunch of young dudes hanging out, laughing and joking, and dropping the F-bomb every other word is not really swearing because nobody’s offended. Unless of course they’re standing next to a bunch of nuns, and they’ve gotta know that their language is offensive to nuns, and they’re using it anyway – well, then it’s swearing.

    This is serious stuff. Alexander seems ready to defend his honor with physical violence – possibly even to the death if need be.
    Uhhhh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    Punched him....
    Okay. But what would you have been punching him for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    Punched him, anything else is cowardice.

    But thats just me, I value dignity and honor.
    Well, I guess we have a pretty clear window into your view of homosexuals, don't we?

    Plus, the tough guy act is laughable.

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