[QUOTE=JuniperWoolf;1112113]Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf
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"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Oh boy, I’m not going to hack my way through all of that rant but you’ll just have to trust me on this, opening the doors to drugs is not a good idea and it’s not going to happen any time soon anyway, thankfully. There’s no government conspiracy propaganda theory at play here either, that’s just paranoia, probably caused by smoking that stuff in the first place.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
*sigh* Oh Emil, you're just so witty and elucidated. <3
Right, I guess Stlukes, Darcy, Alexander, Pip, Mutatis, smerdyakov, YesNo, and myself should just shut our childish little mouthes and listen to the infallible wisdom of our elders (aka. you, Loka and Emil) who won't even bother to read our posts.
Also, I have a 3.8GPA from one of Canada's leading universities so don't you start in on my brain! She's workin' just fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3_1...eature=related
Also, no one mentioned conspiracy, you're just being a jerk to kill my credibility (which is exactly what I knew would happen if I came out in favor of legalization and admited that I smoke on the weekends on a forum populated by conservative British men). I'm referencing real commercials that were played regularly on television. Hold on I'll look for some, they're funny.
...Actually, not one of my five work computers have sound. I'll look when I get home.
But just a sec:
Iiiiiiits already happened in my country and The Netherlands. We're doing quite well (better than the UK in most respects) so maybe we know what we're about.and it’s not going to happen any time soon anyway, thankfully.
Last edited by JuniperWoolf; 02-04-2012 at 10:55 AM.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
Neely, You're beginning to sound like a retired copper who voted for Cameron and reads the Daily Mail everyday...are you?
[QUOTE=JuniperWoolf;1112159*sigh* Oh Emil, you're just so witty and elucidated. <3[/QUOTE]
It's always nice when the penny finally drops.Right, I guess Stlukes, Darcy, Alexander, Pip, Mutatis, smerdyakov, YesNo, and myself should just shut our childish little mouthes and listen to the infallible wisdom of our elders (aka. you, Loka and Emil).
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
I'm starting to realize that some things such as relligion and politics and various other things are impossible to argue.
Some of you anti-weed guys just seem like religious fanatics, who ignore all evidence because it conflicts with their pre-concieved notions.
But I and Juniper and others probably sound like equal relligious fanatics on the other end.
Because sometimes reason and logical argument are usless, to win a debate you have to not make the other think as you do, but feel, it is the emotion which must be transfered.
I leave this conversation quietly, with a quote
"I would make any sacrifice but this; twenty times I can stake my life, even my honour, but my freedom I shall never sell. Why do I prize it so much? ... What am I aiming at? Nothing, absolutely nothing."
Stlukes should be simply flabbergasted to hear that, especially since I'm pretty sure he's older than you.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
I'm sure Stluke's will know who it was meant for.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Oh no, I'm perfectly aware that your awkward aggression was directed at me (that does seem to be what gets you hard nowadays), I'm simply pointing out that your assertion of our point of view as the result of our being young (and therefor idiots, for you are to be held above all and worshiped as a god for your ability to not fall under a bus - even if you don't fully grasp how to operate the forum quote tags) falls flat once you realize that one of the pro-legalization posts on this thread was made by someone who is, in fact, older than you.
Last edited by JuniperWoolf; 02-04-2012 at 11:33 AM.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
I have read all of your posts and have replied respectfully and without hysteria. I’ve said that there are a few arguable points on the legalise side in the whole tangle which I have conceded to, but overall, as I’ve said, the perceived positives of this are far outweighed by the negatives in my opinion, to my tastes. Also as far as I am aware, no politician in this country takes the argument seriously anyway. It probably wouldn’t be the end of the world if the vile stuff were made legal, but I wouldn’t like to see it happen either. Either way I’m not going to lose sleep over it. I also don't make preconceived judgements regarding those who do smoke it or do anything that doesn't have to do with me; the truth is I don't really care, it's not my business.Right, I guess Stlukes, Darcy, Alexander, Pip, Mutatis, smerdyakov, YesNo, and myself should just shut our childish little mouthes and listen to the infallible wisdom of our elders (aka. you, Loka and Emil) who won't even bother to read our posts.
Also, no one mentioned conspiracy, you're just being a jerk to kill my credibility (which is exactly what I knew would happen if I came out in favor of legalization and admited that I smoke on the weekends on a forum populated by conservative British men). I'm referencing real commercials that were played regularly on television. Hold on I'll look for some, they're funny.
With respect, Canada and The Netherlands are not the UK and I know what would happen if they opened the doors here with it, as I have said twice at least.Iiiiiiits already happened in my country and The Netherlands. We're doing quite well (better than the UK in most respects) so maybe we know what we're about.
Ha, ha, I have a picture of him by my bed.Neely, You're beginning to sound like a retired copper who voted for Cameron and reads the Daily Mail everyday...are you?
No, neither, I’m not Conservative (I’m not any party really...I don't believe that the complexities of politics and life can conform to a neat left/right dichotomy) and I don’t think I’ve ever read the Daily Mail! The Guardian online is my choice of daily news (depression).
Last edited by LitNetIsGreat; 02-04-2012 at 11:11 AM.
Now that I'm home, here are some commercials:
Thaaat's right, dog's talk to you when you're high.
Also, weed is the same thing as ecstacy! (which could kill you!)
If your children see you smoking weed, glowing lights will grow on their body!
It's the same thing as putting leaches in your mouth!
Bloody classic American ad, seriously one of the funniest things I've ever seen. "When it's smoked, it produces more nightmares than opium!" My friend Rosie has this on dvd.
And this, well, that just makes people want to get high, and is probably the best thing I've ever seen (hahahaha, "and a sudden urge to wear sunglasses at night").
Last edited by JuniperWoolf; 02-04-2012 at 11:43 AM.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
Wow, that is behind the times. In Canada, most of the parties are pro-legalization except for the conservatives (and those stupid on-the-fence liberals who are neither for nor against, they have NO balls) who are currently in office. They're the ones who released that commercial with the nine year olds smoking weed that pissed everyone off. Most of our commercials are nice, rational "don't smoke and drive" bits, like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuc7sAcmzXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k133B...eature=related
Okay, I'm sorry for getting defensive.
Okay, but wouldn't that imply that people in the UK are inherently different than us?
Last edited by JuniperWoolf; 02-04-2012 at 11:31 AM.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
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I'm pretty certain that it is not even an topic for discussion for all major parties here, I can't even remember the last time someone mentioned the legalise debate, it just doesn't seem to be an issue.In Canada, most of the parties are pro-legalization except for the conservatives (and those stupid on-the-fence liberals, they have NO balls) who are currently in office, they're the ones who released that commercial with the nine year olds smoking weed. Before, we used to have nice, rational, helpful, "don't smoke and drive" commercials, like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuc7sAcmzXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k133B...eature=related
That's the first don't drink and smoke ad I've ever seen in my life, you just will not see one here, there has never been one as far as I am aware. The only drugs adverts I've seen here are for harder drugs and the Frank helpline like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnA-xCz5U8
(Though I've actually never seen that one before.)
I don't think people are inherently many things, rather it's a matter of the culture. For example look at the way the French, Italian, Greek etc youth handle alcohol Vs the way UK youth does - the difference is massive, astronomical.Okay, but wouldn't that imply that people in the UK are inherently different than us?
Here's just a typical programme on UK binge drinking as an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw-dC...eature=related
I have a work friend who is Greek and just cannot understand this "let's get hammered" attitude that is so much part of UK life, it is just so much different on the continent where alcohol is given more respect. So anyway, I know what would happen if they did legalise drugs here and I wouldn't like it, we've enough to contend with already.
Last edited by LitNetIsGreat; 02-04-2012 at 11:54 AM.
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