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    Quote Originally Posted by Haunted View Post



    Ever heard of the "liberal media"? MSNBC is a prime example, even they are part of mainstream media.



    Good move. To discuss politics here would be a sin.
    Yeah I had a big response typed up and then realized it was purely political. There's no point. Minds don't get changed on internet forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf View Post
    ...of varying degrees.
    Yeah. (I think this is the first time we agree on anything.)

    To further that thought, some are honest mistakes, some are downright criminal.

    (I hope you don't mind that I completed your sentence there)
    I'm cool with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Minds don't get changed on internet forums.
    So true. It has a tendency to deteriorate into arguments and even name calling and that's bad, though not quite a sin.

    I think both politics and religion are moot points. Religion discussions should be limited to the texts and not the validity of religion as it's a matter of faith and that's an indisputable personal choice. Then again I don't make the rules here.

    "But do you really, seriously, Major Scobie," Dr. Sykes asked, "believe in hell?"
    "Oh, yes, I do."
    "In flames and torment?"
    "Perhaps not quite that. They tell us it may be a permanent sense of loss."
    "That sort of hell wouldn't worry me," Fellowes said.
    "Perhaps you've never lost anything of importance," Scobie said.

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    originally posted by Haunted;
    What health reforms? All I'm aware of is they changed the food pyramid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KCurtis View Post
    Can we stay away from another U.S. bad, U.K. good thread? I personally love both countries.
    That wasn't the intention. Here in the UK we have a public school elite who run the political parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    Your perception is grossly perverted by the almighty media. You have no clue what was done for the Katrina victims, and how people did nothing for themselves. I thought better of your perception of things. I am disappointed. Don't mention Obama, this shouldn't turn into a political discussion.
    I can only report the perception here, although I am aware of the media's influence. The thing is, if there were political interference in our perception of what happened in New Orleans, then it would be pro US. I have to say that I'm not against any country, and I am very well aware of the drawbacks in the UK.

    I'll mention Obama if I feel he illustrates a point. After all I was responding to this:

    We have hundreds of welfare laws in the United States that protect people from neglect and they are evolving. And we have hundreds of laws that protect people from negligence.

    from Cafolini. What he says doesn't come across to me from what I see, and this from Haunted:

    What health reforms? All I'm aware of is they changed the food pyramid.

    seems to support that idea in so far as it's worse than I thought. Now not looking after your own people let alone anyone else - that's a sin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    That wasn't the intention. Here in the UK we have a public school elite who run the political parties.
    Well, if people vote for them they get what they deserve.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    Well, if people vote for them they get what they deserve.
    Yes - but all three parties - Clegg, Milliband and Cameron? Anyway - it's sinful to bring in politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    Yes - but all three parties - Clegg, Milliband and Cameron? Anyway - it's sinful to bring in politics.
    I hope that this is generic enough to say, and is possibly agreeable enough to anyone. I don't care what party, I personally would just prefer anyone who WASN'T a career politician.
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    Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.

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    Stop talking politics! I am trying hard to obey the rules but this is like facing all you can eat Chinese on a strict diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Stop talking politics! I am trying hard to obey the rules but this is like facing all you can eat Chinese on a strict diet.
    But Darcy...I can't really see Chinese food (or at least MOST Chinese foods) that can really be off limits to a diet. I just made some stir fry last night for a group of friends. It was all quite healthy (generally speaking) except if you would consider me adding molasses to the chicken's sauce. Then we had fresh fruit with freshly whipped cream for dessert.

    Besides, if it is a "sin" to talk politics, then we would be defining an aspect of sin and it would all be applicable to the original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    Stop talking politics! I am trying hard to obey the rules but this is like facing all you can eat Chinese on a strict diet.
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    Sorry - are we talking sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
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    Sorry - are we talking sin?
    You need to repent, Paul...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    That wasn't the intention. Here in the UK we have a public school elite who run the political parties.
    So do we

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    I hope that this is generic enough to say, and is possibly agreeable enough to anyone. I don't care what party, I personally would just prefer anyone who WASN'T a career politician.
    Well it's difficult not to elect a career politician in the broader sense but, in UK terms, if you don't want such a person you might end up with someone like Denis Skinner who, I suspect, Paul may well be supportive of. As an American you may not know of him but just Google his name and take in some of the YouTube videos that come to light.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    Well it's difficult not to elect a career politician in the broader sense but, in UK terms, if you don't want such a person you might end up with someone like Denis Skinner who, I suspect, Paul may well be supportive of. As an American you may not know of him but just Google his name and take in some of the YouTube videos that come to light.
    I can imagine that his great great great great grandfather was a trader of furs?
    Les Miserables,
    Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
    Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.

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