You just haven't said anything worth responding to yet.Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
You just haven't said anything worth responding to yet.
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
This settles it. The earth is a heck of a lot older than the fundamentalists say. What I don't understand is why some Christians feel it necessary to resist the obvious. Science disproves neither God nor Christ's resurrection, the two central pillars of the Christian faith. The strongest of faiths is that which accepts the truths revealed by science and then affirms God in spite of them. By denying science the fundamentalist is conceding that fact threatens faith.
Right, Bien. I only responded in the way YOU wanted, with support for my argument. That's the message you've decided to ignore. You're just being rude now.
I'll ask a different question, you said that you didn't trust the science presented here. Why is that? What kind of science would you accept?
Last edited by Mutatis-Mutandis; 12-27-2011 at 10:40 PM.
Today my toddler son drank a bunch of sea monkeys. Cycle of life.
Ok...that is funny and not-so-funny at the same time. I hope that he's alright. As they say..."out of the mouths of babes"...I guess this time it's "into the mouths of babes"...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
He'll be fine. Sea monkeys are just brine shrimp. Probably good for you.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Haha. Yeah. I freaked out at first, but he seems fine. He's a little confused as to why I would be sad over him drinking water. Sorry to derail the thread. I just figured this was of supreme importance. We can get back to universal truths and myths and stuff now.
Somehow, I don't think comic book ads are that out of place here.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
One thing that baffles me about those of Bien's persuasion who denigrate science because it clashes with the 'facts' in the Bible...
They believe God made Man, and Man is fallible... so just as scientists can be fallible (but are working at it) why can't those who wrote the Bible also be fallible? Are we saying intelligence peaked when the Bible was written and we've all become increasingly moronic since the days of Moses or whoever?
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Apparently men didn't write the bible, God did.
That would be the answer I suppose, though I would have expected God to be a better poet than Dante...
But still God is definitely amongst the top 5 poets. He best work for me is the Quran, but in term of sales his most popular book is the New Testament. In the Old Testament (His first published work) we see that trait which many young and promising writers suffer from, to much egotism and teenage angst. But still a great first book.
These posts are so funny. I like reading what you all have to say-some very clever people here. And a young edge that I like and miss- Oh to be young again!! I think I am until I look in the mirror.
Seriously though, most people my age are stuck- and they listen to Neil Diamond. NOT ME!!!
The only thing that should matter from your position is whether you think the bible is fallible or not, not whether BienvenuJDC does or not.
We are all offering each other a lot of interesting characters. I wouldn't want any of them quieted. For some of us, these characters may influence future stories or poems. For others, they may give us ideas that change the way we think. But for most, if not all of us, those characters that we each find annoying test our patience and give us an opportunity to practice patience -- or not.
Excellent question. It will be ignored and/or railed against by the zealots. To add to it, if God himself wrote the bible, why doesn't he write another? Why doesn't he choose to make sense and be visible in modern times?
I agree. But to me they are like baboonic jokes. Actually not all who disagree are obliged to disagree in all respects. I for example can't take Einstein's BS regarding science, but I am forced to say that in the quote you present here I can't find a pinch of disagreement except that of course there is much more to it. What about the usual jackass who's rhetoric has such an unending amplitude of variations and disguises that he actually manages to repeat himself endlessly while appearing to said something different each new time? So the problem seems to somehow involve IQ in determining insanity. If he can fool people with a 125+, he's normal.
Perhaps one of my favorite observers of all times put it best: "You know, you don't have to spend much time in Washington to understand the prophetic visions of the men who designed all the streets in there. They go in circles." ~ Ronald Reagan
Last edited by cafolini; 12-28-2011 at 02:39 PM.
An important thing to remember about the Bible is there have been several layers of human intervention involved in giving us what we have. Humans wrote what they claimed God said (at the time, men thought the world was flat and the center of the universe, but obviously the Creator knew better, so there's one example of man's limitations poisoning the well right off the bat); other humans decided which of these "books" would and would not be included in the Bible (hence the Apocrypha, accepted by some but not others); still other humans translated the original ancient Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek into other languages (we have dozens of English translations alone, all with their own translation philosophies, styles, and agendas). So whatever the adulterated word of God may have been, good luck separating it from all the political shenanigans.
You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi
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