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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunderground View Post
    Correction,wimps claim they have no free-will. But are you free to claim otherwise?
    Wimps don't count where the action is.

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    I do think a soldier or an employee and especially a student can do whatever he/she wants, but since everything comes with a consequence, he/she must also accept it at the end. Free will does not guarantee a jail free card
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I do think a soldier or an employee and especially a student can do whatever he/she wants, but since everything comes with a consequence, he/she must also accept it at the end. Free will does not guarantee a jail free card
    Free will only tells you to choose good from bad. If someone misuses free will and sits on the highway he could become yet another star in the sky!
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    It's just not that easy, unless you're Nietzchean about it.

    One thing that makes it difficult is that science and psychology and sociology seem to support a form of at least 'soft' determinism. There's a lot of things to say 'no' to if you want to claim you're absolutely free.

    On a personal note, this reader sees 'free will' as strictly an academic inquiry best left in the study, as Hume put it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts View Post
    It's just not that easy, unless you're Nietzchean about it.

    One thing that makes it difficult is that science and psychology and sociology seem to support a form of at least 'soft' determinism. There's a lot of things to say 'no' to if you want to claim you're absolutely free.

    On a personal note, this reader sees 'free will' as strictly an academic inquiry best left in the study, as Hume put it.





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    I struggle on this issue, and so have men far wiser and far greater than me. Its difficult to assert the notion of free will knowing that behind every act of will there is a chain of causes and effects. They say determinism is no longer viewed by scientists as absolute, but whether that applies to humans and human brains remains to be seen.

    Nietzsche said something to the effect of "there are no free and unfree wills, only strong and weak wills."

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    If you have to ask yourself if you have free-will i suggest you are spending far too much energy reading philosophy.

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    Free Will is like a Clock which tells time for a certain duration without the intervention of its maker. Then it keeps telling time until its 'prime mover' wants it to or the clock goes dead!
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    Oh come on. It's a perfectly acceptable, self-reflective question. Of course, walking around most of your day while in a state of self reflection probably means too much philosophy.








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    If humans had free will they would be strolling on the moon!!
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    Oh. Is that how it is? Resorting to the old 'strolling on the moon' argument, are we?

    Sir, this reader detests your nihilistic, insidious, un-American undertones. If McCarthy and HUAC were around today, you'd be bound and shackled. Good day.






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    Perhaps it was for that reason '' former President Harry S. Truman denounced it for being the "most un-American thing in the country today."
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    Of course the idea of free will appeals to me. It just doesn't make seem to make sense. Determinism and all that.
    Check out my blog it has basically nothing to do with literature.
    http://slingsandarrowsandtheproudman.blogspot.com/

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    We are born free to do what we want in so long as it coincides with our nature. With the whole moon thing, we were not built to live in a place with no oxygen. The same thing goes with anything else that we were not made to do. In our choices, we are free, though. Even if someone is pointing a gun at your head, you still have a choice of whether you are going to go with their demands or not.

    The "Adjustment Bureau" was an amazing movie that pondered this question of free will. I highly recommend it! Read up on free will in the Catechism of the Catholic Church if you want to get the catholic insight!

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    'What is it that you read my lord? Words,words,words.'
    Come on,free-will is like Porn,you know what it is,its blatantly obvious,and you cant rationalize it away. (unless you use your free-will to deny your fre-will!!) Determinism in philosophy or science just shows the limits of these two 'sciences'.

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    human free will is illusory at best

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    A point of view by Rebecca Bynum
    Here's more from her........http://www.newenglishreview.org/Rebe...and_Free_Will/
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