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    Quote Originally Posted by ftil View Post
    Hm… your response is quite interesting. Isn’t it interesting that whenever people address the lack of religious tolerance, they are called fundamentalist Christians or Muslims? I know people who are fundamentalist Buddhist, Hindu, New Age, or Satanists.
    Me too. In fact, I mentioned fundamentalist Muslims three times in the other thread, but no one was rushing to their defence. I wonder why?

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    Woah, what happened here....seems like a....well I shouldn't be posting this right now.....being....well sleep deprived and tired to that point where it seems like your drunk when you're really not....how eloquent! but it's the best way I could describe it.....right the point.
    Haha, that was me last night when I started getting into this crap in the first place. On the days before I have nightshift I have to stay up all night and go to bed at 9am in order to re-set my sleep schedule. So, for any mods that are reading this, I'm sorry about getting into another religious discussion, I was sleep deprived, I'm pretty certain that I managed to avoid getting personal, forgive me! To err is human, yeah?

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    I wonder what a fundamental Buddhist is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I wonder what a fundamental Buddhist is.
    Well, a fundamental hindu might come in the form of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. And maybe a fundamental Buddhist would be illustrated by those that set themselves on fire in protest. That seems pretty fundamentalist to me.

    Of course, Buddhism is quite a peace loving religion... so it might be more rare. Maybe due to the lack of a holy book.

    Though if we think about the word 'fundamental' and go back into history (the first time that was used to denote religious fundamentalism was in regard to American Evangelicals... going back to the 'fundamentals' of the religion.. in some cases, the Amish are considered fundamentalists as well), then the meaning of the word and what it denotes becomes a bit different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticPassions View Post
    Well, a fundamental hindu might come in the form of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. And maybe a fundamental Buddhist would be illustrated by those that set themselves on fire in protest. That seems pretty fundamentalist to me.

    Of course, Buddhism is quite a peace loving religion... so it might be more rare. Maybe due to the lack of a holy book.

    Though if we think about the word 'fundamental' and go back into history (the first time that was used to denote religious fundamentalism was in regard to American Evangelicals... going back to the 'fundamentals' of the religion.. in some cases, the Amish are considered fundamentalists as well), then the meaning of the word and what it denotes becomes a bit different...
    I'm still wonder what would be entailed in being considered a Christian fundamentalist. What does that mean exactly?
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    "Fundamentalism is strict adherence to specific theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against Modernist theology.[1] The term "fundamentalism" was originally coined by its supporters to describe a specific package of theological beliefs that developed into a movement within the Protestant community of the United States in the early part of the 20th century, and that had its roots in the Fundamentalist–Modernist Controversy of that time.[2] The term usually has a religious connotation indicating unwavering attachment to a set of irreducible beliefs.[3] "Fundamentalism" is sometimes used as a pejorative term, particularly when combined with other epithets (as in the phrase "right-wing fundamentalists")."

    I don't think the Buddhist monks who set themselves on fire qualify as fundamentalists. Its a political action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticPassions View Post
    Well, a fundamental hindu might come in the form of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. And maybe a fundamental Buddhist would be illustrated by those that set themselves on fire in protest. That seems pretty fundamentalist to me.

    Of course, Buddhism is quite a peace loving religion... so it might be more rare. Maybe due to the lack of a holy book.

    Though if we think about the word 'fundamental' and go back into history (the first time that was used to denote religious fundamentalism was in regard to American Evangelicals... going back to the 'fundamentals' of the religion.. in some cases, the Amish are considered fundamentalists as well), then the meaning of the word and what it denotes becomes a bit different...
    those that set themselves on fire in protest.

    In what way is it fundamental? It's using teachings that have developed since The Buddha's time, so it doesn't fit with the going back to fundamentals definition.

    Fundamentalism also has negativie, violent connotations, though no-one but the monk was harmed. Also, the harm, whilst affecting his body, would not have affected his karma, which, motivated by the wish to free people from the sufferings of the Vietnam war, may have been positively influenced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    I'm still wonder what would be entailed in being considered a Christian fundamentalist. What does that mean exactly?

    It's all pretty clearly explained by the fathers of the movement, here...


    http://www.eaec.org/bookstore/the_fundamentals.htm

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    OK...then who I really qualify as a Christian Fundamentalist? I've been accused as such here on this site. I'm just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy88 View Post
    "Fundamentalism is strict adherence to specific theological doctrines usually understood as a reaction against Modernist theology.[1] The term "fundamentalism" was originally coined by its supporters to describe a specific package of theological beliefs that developed into a movement within the Protestant community of the United States in the early part of the 20th century, and that had its roots in the Fundamentalist–Modernist Controversy of that time.[2] The term usually has a religious connotation indicating unwavering attachment to a set of irreducible beliefs.[3] "Fundamentalism" is sometimes used as a pejorative term, particularly when combined with other epithets (as in the phrase "right-wing fundamentalists")."

    I don't think the Buddhist monks who set themselves on fire qualify as fundamentalists. Its a political action.
    But any religious or merely philosophical system of thought asserts an intellectual straightjacket and views it as fundamental. It is a pity because the word fundamentalist or even foundation has been infested with the hocus-pocus, and you have to think twice before you use it and in what context to make it meaningful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    OK...then who I really qualify as a Christian Fundamentalist? I've been accused as such here on this site. I'm just wondering.
    I wouldn't worry about it. I've been accused on this site of being an insensitive, intolerant, ill-informed, fatuous, liberal, old, stupid, intellectually-restricted, bourgeois, crude, humourless jerk.

    Any of which is debatable, but even if it's right, the people saying so just got lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it. I've been accused on this site of being an insensitive, intolerant, ill-informed, fatuous, liberal, old, stupid, intellectually-restricted, bourgeois, crude, humourless jerk.

    Any of which is debatable, but even if it's right, the people saying so just got lucky.
    That's crazy...you're not that old!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
    OK...then do I really qualify as a Christian Fundamentalist? I've been accused as such here on this site. I'm just wondering.

    Quote Originally Posted by markbastable
    I wouldn't worry about it. I've been accused on this site of being an insensitive, intolerant, ill-informed, fatuous, liberal, old, stupid, intellectually-restricted, bourgeois, crude, humourless jerk.

    Any of which is debatable, but even if it's right, the people saying so just got lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    That's crazy...you're not that old!!

    Well, exactly. Thank you. And you're not that Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    I wonder what a fundamental Buddhist is.
    Fundamentalism is a rigid adherence to a religious doctrine. This term does not apply to a specific religion but describes a person who has a rigid belief system.

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    How does someone find out if they have infraction points? I kinda feel left out if I don't have any. They sound kinda like prison tattoos for troll cred or something.

    If I say something like "The next person to post in this forum smells of moldy brownies and rotten armadillo meat" will I earn a point or do I need to be more offensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krymsonkyng View Post
    How does someone find out if they have infraction points? I kinda feel left out if I don't have any. They sound kinda like prison tattoos for troll cred or something.

    If I say something like "The next person to post in this forum smells of moldy brownies and rotten armadillo meat" will I earn a point or do I need to be more offensive?
    I shouldn't think so, moldy brownies and armadillo meat are my favourite scent. However, if you were to imply a phrase like 'leftist progressivism' to be a contradiction in terms, you might well find yourself part of the growing membership of the infraction club.
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