Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
Wow. I can't believe what I just read there. Man and dinosaurs living together! Sorry, Bien, but your credibility is completely gone.
The trouble with Intelligent Design Theory is it doesn't consider the big picture. Where did God come from? Was God intelligently designed by another God? And that God by another God before? Where did that God come from? Perhaps just spring into existence TOTALLY by accident?
Perhaps God created himself intelligently from the void?
If you don't have the answer then what makes you feel you can dump on an alternative theory to how life began? Life is physical and can be studied, and it's easier to see that it happened by chance - which doesn't make it any less amazing - in fact if anything it would surely make it more so?
Mystyry, you are so smart!
I agree with, Mutatis. I'm sorry, Bien. That approach just doesn't hold water. I don't think I can participate much more for this one.
you cannot grow tree even if you water it with a million gallons of water a day!!
Teaching is always done slowly---metered--to be assimilated by the brain. Changes take time to complete....Rome was not built in a day!
Where does love come from?? This Universe and all in it is not totally physical-there is a spiritual side to it as well which is still beyond 'science's' reach!
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When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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Ah well, where Love comes from is a separate issue, and a far greater and more important thing than all the 'ologies and 'osophies combined (though shelter, sleep, food and drink and good music are also up there).
God as a metaphor for Love I have no problem with, but God as a metaphor for Absolutely Everything Else... that's pretty unsteady ground to me, especially as we're given free will but The Almighty knows what's going to happen anyway - that's more of a Gordian Knot than an answer. But we have Love so why worry about it at all?
Please cite your references for coal. Pictures and pottery is not evidence that people saw dinosaurs. If you would like to know, find out by consulting scientists.
At least we all can agree that the earth is round.
I guess the late member Musicology was before your time.
What about the credibility of sound evidence? I'm not saying that these things bring forth 100% proof by themselves, but this is indeed evidence that many in the scientific world totally rejects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtDbXN0RILE
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
Wrong. Time cube. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube
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I know, right?!? I've had conversations with these people in real life, they insist that wood that's been charred to the point that the composite material no longer resembles wood is a fossil, even though real fossils are made of hard solid stone and not flaky coal-like blackened wood. They also don't take into account the stratafied layers of earth. Apparently, fossils were buried under mountains of stratified layers of widely differing types of hard, solid rock during a world-wide flood (even though there's not enough water on earth to cover the every landmass and mountain). Faster animals are in the top layers of course because they ran away from the rising water, except that raptors are embedded thousands of feet deeper than sloths and slugs. Apparently, dinosaurs were just really slow runners.
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Sorry, but drawings, engravings, and sculptures of what vaguely looks like dinosaurs hardly seems credible, sound evidence. I honestly thought there would be more than that . . . but there wasn't, aside from the even more vague fossil "evidence." So, according to what this presenter posits, I guess we should also consider the possibility that there was a creature that was part man and part lion in Egypt. After all, they made a sculpture of it, so maybe it actually existed? People who lived thousands of years ago surely didn't possess any creativity.
Even if you wanted to say these things were based in reality, humans co-existed along megafauna, like the Megalania, which was a very large lizard.
Also, the fact that most European and African dragon myths revolve around water suggests that they were probably inspired by crocodiles. You can trace the development of later models of dragons, like the flying fire breathing more dinosaur like kind as a later development and clearly invention.
Asian dragon myths are clearly based on snakes anatomically.
"If the national mental illness of the United States is megalomania, that of Canada is paranoid schizophrenia."
- Margaret Atwood
Yeah, the earliest giant animal myth that I can remember reading is Mars' giant snake that was killed by Europa's brother whatsisname in order to sow it's teeth and make a new civilization. Besides, it isn't difficult to see how stories about giant animals would have been imagined by our ancestors, we're all fascinated by giant animals (imagine how the ancient sailor who stumbled across a blue whale would have had his imagination sparked). I've read about giant snakes, giant dogs, giant bulls, why are stories about giant reptiles with wings indicative of dinosaurs romping around with humans? The others didn't exist.
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"Personal note: When I was a little kid my mother told me not to stare into the sun. So once when I was six, I did. At first the brightness was overwhelming, but I had seen that before. I kept looking, forcing myself not to blink, and then the brightness began to dissolve. My pupils shrunk to pinholes and everything came into focus and for a moment I understood. The doctors didn't know if my eyes would ever heal."
-Pi
Disagree. All things are materials. Even our thoughts. That doesn't make them any less valid. It just makes them less fictional.
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