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  1. 11-14-2011, 05:55 PM #1
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    Exclamation Does the idea of Free Will appeal to you??

    Does your Free Will control your mind?? Does it help you choose good from evil?? How and where Free Will comes from?? How much one should exercise his/her Free Will?? Is our Free Will subordinate to the Will of the Supreme Being? Does Free Will have any scientific basis?? Is Free Will yet another name for emotions??? These and many questions about Free Will still remain unanswered. There is some good discussion about Free Will in the following article at

    http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/the_...rce=newsletter

    Let's see what do you have in mind about Free Will. Plz feel free to speak out your heart but gently....





    http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/the_...rce=newsletter
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    When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones.
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  2. 11-14-2011, 06:25 PM #2
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    It depends on what you mean by free will. There occurs no absolute one. You can choose among the given choices, which might or might not be what you want, but they are there in any sociological setup. Other than those choices you have no free will. But to make those choices you also have to be informed as to what's available.
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  3. 11-17-2011, 08:21 AM #3
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    Man is absolutely free to do what he 'wants'. But how much suffering are you prepeared to go through for what you want? Or are you brave enough to follow your own desires without recourse to the 'opinions' of others? Man is as free as he wants to be.
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  4. 11-17-2011, 10:02 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunderground View Post
    Man is absolutely free to do what he 'wants'. But how much suffering are you prepeared to go through for what you want? Or are you brave enough to follow your own desires without recourse to the 'opinions' of others? Man is as free as he wants to be.
    No, a soldier can't do whatever he wants, an employee cannot do whatever he wants; a student can't do whatever he wants, etc etc. The will of all these is subordinate to the will of someone, something else. Man is free yet in chains,goes the saying. These chains are of several kinds, terrestrial, heavenly, socio-economic, political, legal, institutional, etc etc. there is no way to escape them unless one wants to go astray!
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  5. 11-17-2011, 10:48 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunderground View Post
    Man is absolutely free to do what he 'wants'. But how much suffering are you prepeared to go through for what you want? Or are you brave enough to follow your own desires without recourse to the 'opinions' of others? Man is as free as he wants to be.
    Even in jail? Under the most pauperous conditions? I agree. He can be as delirious as he wants to be, but only in being, which doesn't occur other than in the imagination. In three-dimensions he has no free will.
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  6. 11-17-2011, 12:19 PM #6
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    Is a man free to be born?
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  7. 11-17-2011, 04:18 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Is a man free to be born?
    Let it go as long as it will
    for we neither entered this world
    nor can leave it
    under our wish!!
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  8. 11-17-2011, 04:34 PM #8
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    Can a man commit suicide? Perhaps that's the only absolute act of free will. But don't take me seriously and do it to prove you have free will.
    And please, please, please, do not have a temper tantrum because you have to admit that I was at least involved. No absolute free will.
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  9. 11-17-2011, 06:21 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Can a man commit suicide? Perhaps that's the only absolute act of free will. But don't take me seriously and do it to prove you have free will.
    And please, please, please, do not have a temper tantrum because you have to admit that I was at least involved. No absolute free will.
    Thoughts that provoked you to think about suicide evidence that you have a 'forced free will''. Now don't ask me what's 'forced free will'', just check out your circumstances which made you think so, okay?
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  10. 11-17-2011, 06:46 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by mazHur View Post
    Thoughts that provoked you to think about suicide evidence that you have a 'forced free will''. Now don't ask me what's 'forced free will'', just check out your circumstances which made you think so, okay?
    Anything is circumstantial, whatever it is. That's precisely why there is no abolute free will except in the act of ending all the circumstances. You are the one who has a forced free will that doesn't occur but in your imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Anything is circumstantial, whatever it is. That's precisely why there is no abolute free will except in the act of ending all the circumstances. You are the one who has a forced free will that doesn't occur but in your imagination.
    haha!! Something seems to have shaken down your 'free will''??
    I don't think any one has a free will..no. We all are bound together with something that controls our 'will'. As I said earlier it could be anything, from terrestrial contingencies to heavenly shadows!! I doubt if you have the 'free will' to commit suicide (please don't do it-I am just trying to explain that takes courage less person=suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by cafolini View Post
    Anything is circumstantial, whatever it is. That's precisely why there is no abolute free will except in the act of ending all the circumstances. You are the one who has a forced free will that doesn't occur but in your imagination.
    haha!! Something seems to have shaken down your 'free will''??
    I don't think any one has a free will..no. We all are bound together with something that controls our 'will'. As I said earlier it could be anything, from terrestrial contingencies to heavenly shadows!! I doubt if you have the 'free will' to commit suicide (please don't do it-I am just trying to explain that takes cowardice less person=suicide
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  12. 11-17-2011, 07:18 PM #12
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    Ha! I thought I was talking to Theunderground.
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  13. 11-18-2011, 08:25 AM #13
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    Freewill sounds like a poor concept but a nice feeling.
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  14. 11-18-2011, 10:52 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowni View Post
    Freewill sounds like a poor concept but a nice feeling.
    Yep. Imagine the good feeling.
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  15. 11-21-2011, 11:11 AM #15
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    Correction,wimps claim they have no free-will. But are you free to claim otherwise?
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