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    please help!

    I am translating a poem but I do not get the idea of what the author mean when he says "impossible to say" (is it an idiomatic expression?)

    impossible to say we share
    a passion for the deeper pain

    an understanding of the rain
    impossible to say we care

    thank you for your help...

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    yes It can be an exression but I think he means exactly what he says "impossible to say " that it would be lieing to say . Does that help/make sense chispa?
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    I am not sure nightshade.....but thank you for your help.
    I think he means the opposite ....or that they both share the passion for the rain and a deeper pain (?)

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    Maybe its Possible I guess thats the thing with that saying I thought that too at first.
    Thats the troubke with sayings like that it can swing either way.
    "Impossible to say " can mean You cant say because its so big it is indescribable
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    Impossible to say because it is so far from the truth.

    I dont supose there is more to the poem is there?
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    If I said "Impossible to say" - in my language it would not mean that it is a lie but an expression meaning that something is impossible for me to know for certain. But I´m not english, so it might have another meaning.
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    i think it means that it's not possible to say they share in the sense that they dont share...so you cant say that they share cos they dont...
    (i guess this is more confusing than the poem itself...)
    dead on the inside, i've got nothing to prove
    keep me alive and give me something to lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by chispa

    impossible to say we share
    a passion for the deeper pain

    an understanding of the rain
    impossible to say we care
    I think 'impossible to say' can be interpretted in two different ways here (depending on the context):

    1. We cannot claim that we share a passion... or an understanding of the rain or we cannot claim that we care because we don't. There is no such connection between them.

    2. We share a passion and an understanding and we care but we do this secretly, without showing it openly so others cannot guess/know that we share those things.
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    yes

    I agree Scheherazade with your second explanation......thank you...

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