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    Life Sucks

    Why does life have to be so complicated? I keep thinking that's everything's going to get better someday but that day just doesn't seem to be coming. I haven't seen a happy person for such a long time, and don't get me wrong I'm not just talking about my own life. I mean life in general. Isn't this whole thing a big, pathetic joke?
    "All that I desire to point out is the general principle that life imitates art far more than art imitates life." -Oscar Wilde

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    Yep. In my opinion, it seems to be a series of events that cause suffering.

    But, you sound like you might be kind of young (perhaps still in your 20's). If that's the case, just wait, life gets much, much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keilj View Post
    Yep. In my opinion, it seems to be a series of events that cause suffering.
    That's mostly how I see it too. Nature is full of suffering, and we're part of it. I wish we could change that and keep more of the good stuff.

    My philosophy for the time being is to just make the best out of it and try to prevent the suffering I can prevent.
    Last edited by Dodo25; 09-17-2011 at 05:57 PM.

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    Top Tips for a Happy Life: http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=64062

    Life is what it is. If you dwell on the negative - that is what will define you; own you.

    Volunteer. Learn to become a glass half full person. Hang with people who have good old fashioned wholesome fun. Get counseling. Turn off the news. Watch & read comedies that make you laugh. Smell the roses. Garden. Write about your cares (it's cathartic)... besides you've already started here; write a short story or poem or autobiography.

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    You need to find a passion to carry you through life. Both long term goals and short term goals.

    Me, I'm an artist - I've trained my brain to be one. But I'm not an artist if I don't do anything.

    Before a work I get enthusiastic. During the work. After the work. Buying new materials.

    Everyone else is also an artist - a lot just don't realise it because it seems easier to let someone else do it. And that may seem to be true, but from experience I know it's much less satisfying than having a project to occupy your mind - and it can be anything from rejuvinating an old piece of furniture with oils and fabrics, to writing the most amazing novel ever.

    But it's up to you to do it first and talk about it later - not sit around imagining it. While you're dong it your brain develops ideas, and after you've finished your brain develops ideas for the next thing.

    People who take up space and do absolutely nothing, expecting to be entertained, are miserable, selfish and boring, and deserve all the unhappiness the universe inflicts on them.

    You have to generate your own happiness in which ever way you see fit though. You have to use your head and your hands. You have to feel that you've achieved something, that your time has been worthwhile and productive - this gives you the understanding and direction to ensure that your future will also.

    Don't be a snail brain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailor STATELY View Post
    Top Tips for a Happy Life: http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=64062

    Life is what it is. If you dwell on the negative - that is what will define you; own you.

    Volunteer. Learn to become a glass half full person. Hang with people who have good old fashioned wholesome fun. Get counseling. Turn off the news. Watch & read comedies that make you laugh. Smell the roses. Garden. Write about your cares (it's cathartic)... besides you've already started here; write a short story or poem or autobiography.

    Best wishes,
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    What you and others like you fail to realize is that just because you have the ability to see the bright side and are able to ignore the stark realities of suffering in this world, everyone is not built that way. And reading "tops tips" will not cause someone with deep conscience to be able to ignore the darkness in this world.





    Behind every silver lining, there's a dark cloud - George Carlin

    Quote Originally Posted by MystyrMystyry View Post
    You need to find a passion to carry you through life. Both long term goals and short term goals.

    Me, I'm an artist - I've trained my brain to be one. But I'm not an artist if I don't do anything.

    Before a work I get enthusiastic. During the work. After the work. Buying new materials.

    Everyone else is also an artist - a lot just don't realise it because it seems easier to let someone else do it. And that may seem to be true, but from experience I know it's much less satisfying than having a project to occupy your mind - and it can be anything from rejuvinating an old piece of furniture with oils and fabrics, to writing the most amazing novel ever.

    But it's up to you to do it first and talk about it later - not sit around imagining it. While you're dong it your brain develops ideas, and after you've finished your brain develops ideas for the next thing.

    People who take up space and do absolutely nothing, expecting to be entertained, are miserable, selfish and boring, and deserve all the unhappiness the universe inflicts on them.

    You have to generate your own happiness in which ever way you see fit though. You have to use your head and your hands. You have to feel that you've achieved something, that your time has been worthwhile and productive - this gives you the understanding and direction to ensure that your future will also.

    Don't be a snail brain!


    This post has to be pure satire. There's no way you can actually be an adult and think this way

    Quote Originally Posted by tailor STATELY View Post
    Top Tips for a Happy Life: http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=64062

    Life is what it is. If you dwell on the negative - that is what will define you; own you.

    Volunteer. Learn to become a glass half full person. Hang with people who have good old fashioned wholesome fun. Get counseling. Turn off the news. Watch & read comedies that make you laugh. Smell the roses. Garden. Write about your cares (it's cathartic)... besides you've already started here; write a short story or poem or autobiography.

    Best wishes,
    tailor STATELY

    here's some more realistic advice - rather than that "glass half full" rot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Q7YRDL90E


    at least this clip reflects a realistic understanding of the truths of this world

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    Quote Originally Posted by keilj View Post
    This post has to be pure satire. There's no way you can actually be an adult and think this way
    I think the ability to think that way makes one an adult. It's a mistake to try to spin the lack of a skill as a positive.
    You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by keilj View Post
    What you and others like you fail to realize is that just because you have the ability to see the bright side and are able to ignore the stark realities of suffering in this world, everyone is not built that way. And reading "tops tips" will not cause someone with deep conscience to be able to ignore the darkness in this world.
    Ah, yes. There you are with your conscience, and if people happier than you had such a conscience they'd be less able to ignore the darkness, and so they'd be less happy. Those happy, conscienceless nitwits.

    If that's a fair way to characterise other human beings as an explanation of their tendency to see a bright side, then it would be equally fair to suggest that those who tend to see the dark side are actually self-important melodramatic scaredy-cats. Not, of course, that any sensible and kind person would make that kind of generalisation, any more than any kind and sensible person would write off happier people with phrases like 'what you fail to realise' and 'ignore the stark realities of suffering'. Either dismissal of vast swathes of humanity would be simplistic and childish.

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    The darkness of the world can't be helped. You have to find your own happiness without dwelling on the negatives.

    When you use your mind to create something worthwhile (an experience for others also to enjoy), then you're doing something which is infinitely better than doing nothing, though this depends - if you're a snail brain washing dishes for a living of course you're going to hate life (fairly quickly I imagine). But if you 'make your own luck' and get the best job in the world where you're surrounded by interesting, exciting, and enthusiastic people with similar passions, then that's how to use your brain to generate happiness.

    Hang out with the deadbeats if you think somewhere in the suffocating miasma of their nothingness you'll get to a position of as close to complete happiness you could wish for.

    Who doesn't want to crack the joke that makes everyone laugh? Misery guts doesn't - and who cares about Misery guts? Not me - life's too short!

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    "Behind every silver lining, there's a dark cloud - George Carlin"

    dark (for nightshifft)

    all is not bunnies
    and sunshine and puppies
    and rainbows and kisses
    and vistas bright
    nor angel's wings
    hugging one tight

    sometimes it's dark
    damn, it's dark
    sometimes
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    I've been there and done that with what you portray as your sensibilities.

    I've moved on and have tried to make a difference for the good in this wonderful world and life.

    I repeat: Life is what it is. If you dwell on the negative - that is what will define you; own you.

    Leaving this thread for brighter pastures.

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    It's a misconception to think that age makes you unhappy - the dribbly end bit does- but up to that point you may find yourself happier than when you were younger. Certainly I'd rather be older than a teen/ twenties.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...cientists.html

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    As someone with a rather debilitating disability, and someone whose had cancer several times, I feel sorry for you, keilj.

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    Meh, I am having a good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keilj View Post
    What you and others like you fail to realize is that just because you have the ability to see the bright side and are able to ignore the stark realities of suffering in this world, everyone is not built that way. And reading "tops tips" will not cause someone with deep conscience to be able to ignore the darkness in this world.
    Top Tips makes me laugh, and what makes you think that being peed off about anything makes it any better?

    If it can be changed - change it. If it can't - do what you can. Neither of which requires miserableness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    As someone with a rather debilitating disability, and someone whose had cancer several times, I feel sorry for you, keilj.
    Whatever makes you feel better

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    Ah, yes. There you are with your conscience, and if people happier than you had such a conscience they'd be less able to ignore the darkness, and so they'd be less happy. Those happy, conscienceless nitwits.
    My premise must bother you, that you have to try to distort it instead of engaging it


    If you have an original idea that you want to express - then do so. Instead of trying to misrepresent what I said by adding your own colorful language to it


    If you and others in this thread want to mistake being a realist with being some kind of sulking curmudgeon, then feel free. If you want to engage in an intelligent conversation about the basis for people's happiness, what true happiness is built on, and, perhaps, how people cope with the unhappy things in this world, then maybe this Internet thread might become more interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by MystyrMystyry View Post

    People who take up space and do absolutely nothing, expecting to be entertained, are miserable, selfish and boring, and deserve all the unhappiness the universe inflicts on them.
    In a world where alcoholism and dependence on psych drugs is quite high (see the recent study about "happiness" in European countries), I think it is extremely condescending and petulant to characterize people as "sitting around doing nothing". The world and the people in it are a little more complicated than that


    It seems that all of these "happy" people have very little empathy

    here's a link to the study

    http://www.fyiliving.com/mental-heal...-of-europeans/

    I was surprised by it because I had always assumed that Europeans were generally happier than Americas. I had heard how some nations like Italy and Spain have a laid-back attitudes, 4-day work weeks.

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