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    Quote Originally Posted by kelby_lake View Post
    I thought Eliot was British?
    No, his ancestors were originally from England and he became a British citizen. He is buried in East Coker in Somerset.
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    Just face it: America is the best, most smartest, most greatest country in the whole entire world in every conceivable category that is thinkable. :nod;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    Just face it: America is the best, most smartest, most greatest country in the whole entire world in every conceivable category that is thinkable. :nod;
    If you say so...I won't disagree...
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    Well your infant mortality rate is kind of hum drum.
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    On the other hand, you score unbeatably in the obesity category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    Just face it: America is the best, most smartest, most greatest country in the whole entire world in every conceivable category that is thinkable. :nod;
    Hmm. If I were an American citizen, who had no interest in economics, I might agree, but many who are interested - especially those who are holding US government debt - are worried that the US has a one-way ticket to Palookaville. Watch this space.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    Hmm. If I were an American citizen, who had no interest in economics, I might agree, but many who are interested - especially those who are holding US government debt - are worried that the US has a one-way ticket to Palookaville. Watch this space.
    America is more than just the here and now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    America is more than just the here and now...
    It's the here and now that's decisive where money is concerned. Just follow the stock markets.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

    "Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    America is more than just the here and now...
    In this case, I would say America is the greatest country - the America of Washington and Franklin, The america of those dutch sailors who first set eyes upon the forests of the east, the america of those men who put their belongings in a bag and went to discover the west. The America of those men who dreamt of more and chased that more; never relenting in that pursuit for what no man had dared dream before.

    Of course the America of the 21st century has become in nothing more than the Europe of the 19th century. That America of before, is just that, a nostalgic remembrance.

    I am not saying that the Old America is dead, or rather it's spirit is still there. Not to go very far, but it's spirit is very much in the "current arab spring"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    In this case, I would say America is the greatest country - the America of Washington and Franklin, The america of those dutch sailors who first set eyes upon the forests of the east, the america of those men who put their belongings in a bag and went to discover the west. The America of those men who dreamt of more and chased that more; never relenting in that pursuit for what no man had dared dream before.

    Of course the America of the 21st century has become in nothing more than the Europe of the 19th century. That America of before, is just that, a nostalgic remembrance.

    I am not saying that the Old America is dead, or rather it's spirit is still there. Not to go very far, but it's spirit is very much in the "current arab spring"
    I'd have to say that current day Europe isn't much to desire. I'll stick with America, and I'll continue to push to make my area of the world better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander III View Post
    In this case, I would say America is the greatest country - the America of Washington and Franklin, The america of those dutch sailors who first set eyes upon the forests of the east, the america of those men who put their belongings in a bag and went to discover the west. The America of those men who dreamt of more and chased that more; never relenting in that pursuit for what no man had dared dream before.
    Though, of course, that wasn't America, except in the geographic sense. It wasn't, for the most part, the USA. In fact, it was, on the whole, a bunch of European colonies.

    Actually - hey, yeah - you're right. That is when the country was at its best.

    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    I'd have to say that current day Europe isn't much to desire.
    Given that Europe consists of about fifty countries, what would you say were the characteristics shared across all those diverse histories and cultures that you have identified as being 'not much to desire'?
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    I find the whole world disgusting, an attitude that lends its own kind of bias to the owner.

    Also, T. S. Eliot is British. Anyone responsible for Cats the stage musical has to be a twit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkBastable View Post

    Given that Europe consists of about fifty countries, what would you say were the characteristics shared across all those diverse histories and cultures that you have identified as being 'not much to desire'?
    The same smuggish attitude that is often spouted around.

    However maybe we ought to look at the similarities between Europe and America for a bit. Over here we are about 50 states (give or take a few other regions). America is just as diverse (if not more). Americans possess their own arrogant nature at times. It might even be quite safe to say that many of our pros & cons were developed from Europe from many years ago.

    However, we broke free...and I think that the UK is still a bit miffed at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC View Post
    The same smuggish attitude that is often spouted around.

    However maybe we ought to look at the similarities between Europe and America for a bit. Over here we are about 50 states (give or take a few other regions). America is just as diverse (if not more). Americans possess their own arrogant nature at times. It might even be quite safe to say that many of our pros & cons were developed from Europe from many years ago.

    However, we broke free...and I think that the UK is still a bit miffed at that.
    Does anyone want to talk about literature?

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    Yes, we would talk about a literary war between nations here, but my hero, The Incredible Hulk, after crushing Stevenson's character Mr Hyde to a bloody pulp, realised that in destroying Mr Hyde he destroyed his ancestor, and thereupon suddenly vanished, never to be seen again.

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