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    bob????????????? um?????? Now I am confused.
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    human nature

    I believe in all humans there is the ability for evil and good. It does not matter whether you are a Christian or not, the ability is still there. What I would be easily tempted to do, may not be what someone else would be easily tempted to do. I have known people that don't want to be "good". They enjoy the dark side. I know people that easily hate others. I also know people that seem to radiate love. So, really it's a choice, a decision to choose evil or good. This is a topic that a person could go on and on and on. Back to my book reading.....

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    first post and probably the last as well

    you can go on and on about anything...

    i try to understand others and follow the live and let others do whatever they want to do as long as they don't affect me.
    that is my measure of good.
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    I agree with lahk (for those of you who want this topic to die-so to speak-sorry) Anyway, I think environment has a lot to do with how "good" or "evil" a person is. I believe people are born innocent and good, and are not naturally pre-disposed to act or think evil. Envirnment does that to the child, not the child itself.
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    ‘Nafs (Self, nature)’ ‘Qalb(heart)’ Rooh( Soul, spirit)’.

    Well! Many things have been said about these. Actually you don’t know any thing. You always pass a confusing statement about those things. When people did not know much about Nafs they said; it is the greatest enigma in the history of mankind (what is nafs) but it was not difficult. Nafs(self) is actually the basic packet of your instincts, when get together they create a self that is nafs. And Qalb is a place; its very equivalence place where wisdom and nafs both act. It is a place. If I don’t have a place for anger in my heart I won’t get angry. Even if the Satan works very hard with me we provide him something from inside so it is a kind of land where he cast his seed. Heart is a place which lives with God. It only remains happy with God. But when it is not with God it is land of mischief. So everybody can come and puts some wrong in it. So I already told you when things go cracked, Qalb and nafs from a bad way of thinking moves on too. As Quran says:

    God has created every thing in balance.

    self is fifty percent wisdom and fifty percent of the satanic impression. When you do get balance, heart gets balance, even Rooh gets balance. But when it gets corrupted, heart gets corrupted even the spirit gets corrupted and you go to Hell. When these are impaired, when they are not properly functioning, when they are not fulfilling the purpose of their creation they go to Hell. And if they succeed in knowing themselves Even a particle of faith will not die. Even a particle of faith will take you to the heaven if you are sincere. So basically there is no difference. We use people, use the mystic the mystic, use these words for facility. They don’t have any worthwhile explanation, what is heart? What is this? May be a teacher explains it as metaphysically, others mystically, the third one scientifically. And basically they use these words and phraseology for explaining certain conditions of mind so nafs is a word which is used for all negative qualities of man. And Qalb is a name which is used for a balanced sheet which has fifty percent both. And Rooh is used for the utmost purification of life. There are three mental conditions. I have never found a difference between Rooh and nafs and all this because to me they all work together this way or that way.

    there is a thread with an amazing investigation about self/nature. lets see it
    http://www.online-literature.com/for...ad.php?t=63002

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    Wow a thread from 2003 with people bickering at each other from the start, how times have changed...

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    Cool, a zombie thread. Thought to be long dead, but behold, it yet lives.

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    Yes - the icons change but the people don't.

    (Hmmm - should I write that down as potentially meaningful. The one meaningful sentence in my meaningless literary contributions......?.....Nah...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    Yes - the icons change but the people don't.

    nice!! I would use that as my signature but I can't bear to part with Yoda.
    Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda


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    Quote Originally Posted by papayahed View Post
    nice!! I would use that as my signature but I can't bear to part with Yoda.
    No, you're right. Yoda is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulclem View Post
    Yes - the icons change but the people don't.

    (Hmmm - should I write that down as potentially meaningful. The one meaningful sentence in my meaningless literary contributions......?.....Nah...)
    Yeah, and a touch ironic that the thread is dealing, or supposed to be so, with human nature. Unchanging human nature and all of that.

    I wonder what people will think in 8 years time if they bring back one of my silly threads or important silly ramblings in regards to what me and Emil are eating and drinking, or Woody Allen conversations etc, etc? Obviously they will realise the genius but what else?

    Currently drinking a bit of Stella...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely View Post
    Yeah, and a touch ironic that the thread is dealing, or supposed to be so, with human nature. Unchanging human nature and all of that.

    I wonder what people will think in 8 years time if they bring back one of my silly threads or important silly ramblings in regards to what me and Emil are eating and drinking, or Woody Allen conversations etc, etc? Obviously they will realise the genius but what else?

    Currently drinking a bit of Stella...
    I've gone back and pulled up a few of my old gems and for the most part I agree with my 2004 self.
    Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda


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    God damn I've been here for seven years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papayahed View Post
    I've gone back and pulled up a few of my old gems and for the most part I agree with my 2004 self.
    Quote Originally Posted by papayahed View Post
    God damn I've been here for seven years.
    Oh I hate it when old threads of mine come up and I've only done three years or so. Never return to the past I think - go forward. At least you agree with your past self, I very much doubt if I would though.

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