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    They deserve something - perhaps the weight of the law.

    A revenger may well commit something that dehumanises them, and what was the good of that then? That's what the law is for - to take away the need for extreme action by the individual that may well be an overreaction in the expression of their hatred.

    I once saw a documentary with a jewish woman who had survived the concentration camps. Soon after she came upon some other survivors who were confronting a German woman with a baby in all their grief and anger. She stood up to them and protected the German woman, and her argument was that hatred had caused the persecution, and that to carry it on does no-one any good.

    If an act is so bad - then it deserves the law.
    If it doesn't warrant the law - well what are you worrying about it for? It's not worth it.

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    To strive for justice requires patience, revenge requires haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    To strive for justice requires patience, revenge requires haste.
    Agreed.

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    That you posted this in the "Religious Texts" forum tells me that you must be referring to Hebrews 10:30, but the question is why?

    Are you looking for reassurance that revenge (i.e. trying to
    effect justice by your own hand) is justified?

    I'm not by any stretch a Biblical scholar, but I seriously doubt you'll find justification for personal vengeance in the
    Scriptures.

    Similarly, I lack a legal background, but conventional wisdom seems to point me toward assuming that revenge is generally not sanctioned by civil authorities as well.

    Even if it were, how would wreaking revenge toward those who have wronged you help your situation in the long run? It might not even make you "feel" any better! Hence, the expression, "Revenge is a dish that is better served cold."

    I am not, nevertheless, dismissing your statement that you might be a victim of some sort of abuse. If so, if I were you, I would not take matters in my own hands.

    If you are a student, seek out a counselor, teacher, or administrator (principal) and talk to him or her. If school has already been dismissed for the summer, then find a clergyman, even if you aren't a regular church goer.

    If you are in immediate danger, call 911 or whatever the emergency number is in your area.

    Get Help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuntShecky View Post
    That you posted this in the "Religious Texts" forum tells me that you must be referring to Hebrews 10:30, but the question is why?

    Are you looking for reassurance that revenge (i.e. trying to
    effect justice by your own hand) is justified?

    I'm not by any stretch a Biblical scholar, but I seriously doubt you'll find justification for personal vengeance in the
    Scriptures.

    Similarly, I lack a legal background, but conventional wisdom seems to point me toward assuming that revenge is generally not sanctioned by civil authorities as well.

    Even if it were, how would wreaking revenge toward those who have wronged you help your situation in the long run? It might not even make you "feel" any better! Hence, the expression, "Revenge is a dish that is better served cold."

    I am not, nevertheless, dismissing your statement that you might be a victim of some sort of abuse. If so, if I were you, I would not take matters in my own hands.

    If you are a student, seek out a counselor, teacher, or administrator (principal) and talk to him or her. If school has already been dismissed for the summer, then find a clergyman, even if you aren't a regular church goer.

    If you are in immediate danger, call 911 or whatever the emergency number is in your area.

    Get Help.
    "The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him."
    Numbers 35: 19

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    "Judge not, that ye be not judged."
    Matthew 7: 1

    "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."
    1 Corinthians 2: 15

    Which is truer? Is the question relevant?

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    "Judge not, that ye be not judged" means judge in the sense of condemn. "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things" means judgeth in the sense of weigh the value of. I see no inconsistency.

    As for "The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer", Jesus said, "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another". Times change.
    "Love does not alter the beloved, it alters itself"

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    To have revenged gave me dignity and the worth of my life. I love it. I want it more.
    I know I am evil, will be reproved by a great deal of my friends here, but I cannot resist my intention to smile genuinely at the moment I think of what I've done.

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    what did you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebagman View Post
    what did you do?
    Don't ask, she is obviously twisted in her own evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G L Wilson View Post
    Don't ask, she is obviously twisted in her own evil.
    I don't like the way you described me. I am evil, but I have never been twisted in anything.

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    Evil but not twisted. I'm gonna print that on a t-shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginiawang View Post
    I don't like the way you described me. I am evil, but I have never been twisted in anything.
    Revenge is never pretty, darling.

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    To have revenged gave me the notion that nobody can attack me at random, without paying for what they did, so I learned the fact that I am still proud. To be able to revenge made my heart beautiful. I love myself after he revenged for me.

    To revenge can fix my wounded soul, and I really want it. I love and believe in him, so I know he will heal my wound by administering more punishment upon the old woman, who once hurt me mercilessly.
    Last edited by virginiawang; 07-11-2011 at 07:57 AM.

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    How did she hurt you?

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