Well yes, biologically speaking, women are of course still in competition and want to attract the very best prospect but it is that - one individual, because of their limitations in reproduction. Men on the other hand do not have such limitations.Originally Posted by Arrowni
I think evolution is important, and Neely could be right. The male urge to spread his seed far and wide may mean an emotional attachment to a particular person is less important and even a hinderence.
Arrowni: In evolutionary terms i think women want to attract the best male they can, and keep him providing for her while the babies are growing up.
Back to the girl on the bike, I find it difficult to separate the esthetic from the sexual. Is this a male thing?
Well all things are relative.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Yes it is, there will be men (and women) who see these larger ladies and think phwwooar !
They probly also think the girl on the bike is a little too skinny...
Everyone is different in what they like to look at and what turns them on.
I think the points being made about evolution and mating may be the key though, it would be important for the male to be instantly attracted to a mate (ie on sight)so he could maximize his seed spreading , where as it would be important for a female to take a bit more time to choose her mate (ie observe if he would be a good provider first) - we females may even be programmed not to find men instantly visually attractive.
But that is not the same as saying we find your bodies ugly.
This would explain why gorgeous females are often seen in the company of less than, what would normally be considered, attractive males.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
Hehe yes, although I still think its a bit wierd.
It gets even weirder, but I think the Louis Vuitton bag might have something to do with it.
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
oh my god. I have had some shocks in my life....
No shock intended.
The mods may remove these posts, but I really wish they wouldn't because it would deny my experience, and as a person with a form of mental illness I don't need my experience denied. And I would really like to understand, why would you say this to me? Aren't you a school teacher?
Seriously, you are putting too much thought into an off-the-cuff comment simply challenging your posted notion of what appears to be "cheap" and "dirty". Yes, I am a teacher... but I'm on summer break right now so it's no holds barred.Seriously, I don't see that being a teacher makes one any more or less of a sexual... or ethical being... at least not outside of the expected professional behavior. Even so... you should remember I'm also an artist... and you know those artists.
I was saying that that was my perspective of that picture. To me it is cheap, dirty, diseased and generic - and not attractive.
And that's well and fine. Seriously, she's not my ideal. But I would also suggest that even those whose ideal partner might be someone highly intelligent, sophisticated, tasteful, elegant, well-mannered and profoundly spiritual may still find cheap, dirty, and lustful to have it attractions.
Emil calls himself "Retired Degenerate" and Neely says, "What would Woody do?" At least they don't pretend to be something they're not. But you call yourself St Luke.
My moniker is not intended as any suggestion of saintliness or purity. St. Luke was considered the patron saint of painters as the result of an apocryphal tale in which he painted a portrait of the Virgin and Child. The subject was quite popular among medieval and Renaissance artists:
As a result of this connection with St. Luke, the painter's guilds... which essentially acted as unions for the painters, often became known as the Guild of Saint Luke or Saint Luke's Guild.
Emil and Neely haven't said anything awful like this directly to me.
Again... you are taking what is written here far too seriously... and too personal. My comment was intended to be off-the-cuff, and while it built upon your comments, it was really just thrown out for everyone or anyone to respond to... or ignore.
To the average male, the naked female body is the most breathtakingly beautiful work of art he has ever seen.
Why do you think that the nude is one of the largest subjects in the entire history of art?
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This thread is making me sick. I have to wonder why it's always the woman's fault. The women I know are sweet, kind, hardworking, generous people who don't really deserve the bull**** being piled on in this thread. I mean really why wouldn't we want to cozy up to these guys:
Do, or do not. There is no try. - Yoda
Maybe it's just hormones. Are people more likely to have a kick-in-the-gut reaction to another person depending on um, their hormone levels?
"...if you weren't smart enough to get a pedophile in a dress to put a small amount of water on the child’s forehead, then what the eff did you think was going to happen?
I think you might have been looking in the wrong places.I mean really why wouldn't we want to cozy up to these guys:
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
What a strange question. If a woman wants to hug her boyfriend that she does it.
Some things in life are just wrong and that's one of them. I mean Lembit's wrong full-stop but I am refering to the gorgeous girl and rich fool scenario - jealous? Well yes damn it.This would explain why gorgeous females are often seen in the company of less than, what would normally be considered, attractive males.
Some things in life are just wrong and that's one of them. I mean Lembit's wrong full-stop but I am refering to the gorgeous girl and rich fool scenario - jealous? Well yes damn it.
And I'll bet any number of American politicians envy him... or rather Europe's lack of Puritanism when it comes to anything sexual.
Beware of the man with just one book. -Ovid
The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them.- Mark Twain
My Blog: Of Delicious Recoil
http://stlukesguild.tumblr.com/
Sorry about this Neely but that is only one of many glamorous females Lembit has been romantically involved with. Here he is with one of his former girlfriends, a member of the Cheeky Girls duo.
President Clinton seemed to do OK with his dalliance in the oval office.
As for the English, the sexual licence that reigns in the UK is due to a kind of reverse psychology. As I have written in my first novel Pro Bono Publico: The sexual repression inherited from Puritan and Victorian forebears gives rise to an exaggerated prurience among the English....
"L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.
"Je crois que beaucoup de gens sont dans cet état d’esprit: au fond, ils ne sentent pas concernés par l’Histoire. Mais pourtant, de temps à autre, l’Histoire pose sa main sur eux." Michel Houellebecq.
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