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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokasenna View Post
    Hmm...

    I'm hardly qualified to comment on the inner workings of the female mind, but I do remember a large group of my female friends (or should I say 'coven'?) literally salivating over the body of the hunky one from Twilight. Despite their intelligence, they were determined to see the films for that reason alone.

    Actually, we had quite a fun debate about it... Is it objectifying if women do it?
    hum.. the thing is I know at least one girl who will sallivate about hunky guys but then if she "catches" one of them, she'd neither tell him that he's sexy or somesuch nor would she show affection in any 'physical' way. I was just wondering how widespread that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyWitch View Post
    hum.. the thing is I know at least one girl who will sallivate about hunky guys but then if she "catches" one of them, she'd neither tell him that he's sexy or somesuch nor would she show affection in any 'physical' way. I was just wondering how widespread that is.
    I know one girl like that, maybe. I know she doesn't show affection in public I can't say what happens when they are alone but she is by far in the minority of all women I know in terms of showing affection.
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    My oldest brother has gotten me into the habit of turning things around, putting the man in the woman's role, and visa versa. I hadn't fully turned this idea around before.

    The "Do you know how it feels to be looked at?" thread had me thinking. I know that I hate men staring at me. It scares me, honestly. I remember the first time it happened to me when I was about 13, standing in a bank with my mother. I'm short, so if they are close to me, they are really looking down at me, and the way they stare and stare - often they don't even do it discreetly. Eww, it gives me the creeps.

    Some women do the same thing to me, (and not lesbian women.) Several women I work with do this (though mostly I work alone, thankfully.) There are a couple of women who say to me, "You're so skinny. I hate you." I've heard 2 or 3 of these women before saying about me, "Don't you hate her?" And they really do hate me! I'm thinking, "You hate me because I've been too nervous to eat all of my life, and I probably have osteoporosis?" In the last few years I manage to stay within the "normal" weight range, but it isn't easy for me to eat at work with people hating me and doing passive/aggressive things to me.

    I don't go to run, or things like that, without one of my brothers.

    Anyway, I'm sure that anyone can have his/her own personal insecurities, or feel reduced or grossed out from being stared at.

    Of course, if it's Leonardo DiCaprio, he better get used to it or change careers.

    Well, I guess this has more to do with being made an object than with touching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyWitch View Post
    hum.. the thing is I know at least one girl who will sallivate about hunky guys but then if she "catches" one of them, she'd neither tell him that he's sexy or somesuch nor would she show affection in any 'physical' way. I was just wondering how widespread that is.
    Well, I think this is widespread! As I've said, I don't understand it. I don't want to catch one at all, for my personal reasons, or not at this time, not for 5 or 10 years. But I actually know it would be great with the right one. (Oh jeez, as I write this I'm thinking, I hope I never get recognized on here.) I honestly feel that I couldn't get enough of all of that!! Oh Lord, I know how that sounds here. PLEASE no one reply!

    I also wonder about all of these women who want to be mothers, but don't like to cuddle. And I feel sorry for their pets, as well.

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    What do women do when they meet a geeky hunk?


    Last edited by Emil Miller; 06-13-2011 at 04:06 PM.
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    Ewww, Emil, I guess I should first ask if that's you before I reply that I lose my appetite completely!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonny View Post
    Ewww, Emil, I guess I should first ask if that's you before I reply that I lose my appetite completely!!!
    Afraid not Vonny, I'm neither hunky nor geeky so I lose out on both counts.
    "L'art de la statistique est de tirer des conclusions erronèes a partir de chiffres exacts." Napoléon Bonaparte.

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    I am bi and enjoy looking at both the male and female form. But I would have to admit that generally a sexy woman is more appealing to look at than a sexy man.
    I don’t like tonnes of muscles particularly and I don’t like hairy men, so maybe I am just fussier about what men I like to look at. Most women in the right lighting/angle/pose can look good naked.
    A lot of sexy is just confidence, for men or women I think.

    It’s possibly just a matter of conditioning, we except that women are sex objects in a rather serious way but not so much with men. It’s more of a joke. Most men would probly feel awkward posing even for their partner to admire them (the way a woman will when emerging from the bathroom for example) and in turn it is not “traditional” for us to comment on their appearance, the way they do with us. We are more inclined to praise their actions.

    I love to see my guy naked, especially from behind as I love his bum, I can’t stop myself from giving him and it a squeeze. But I wouldn’t automatically say something complimentary; I will make a point of doing so today.

    For the record I tend to go for fully clothed nerdy types over muscle men too, give me
    The Doctor http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/
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    Sherlock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch
    Anytime !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emil Miller View Post
    What do women do when they meet a geeky hunk?


    That is quite possibly the most horrific thing I have ever seen in my life. And I've seen Welsh folkdancing...
    "I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance. And when I saw my devil, I found him serious, thorough, profound, solemn: he was the spirit of gravity- through him all things fall. Not by wrath, but by laughter, do we slay. Come, let us slay the spirit of gravity!" - Nietzsche

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    This thread is turning out to be one of the treats of the week. Hell of all time. Brilliant!

    Incidentally, I discretely asked Mrs N what she thought of the male form (a conversation I will not repeat) thinking that she would dismiss the OP's thoughts perhaps, but in turn she fully agreed with it.

    I will conduct more anecdotal research tomorrow with random women at work - hell I need some sort of reason to get up in the morning. I will report my findings. (I don't quite know how I will slip "junks" into conversation as yet but I'll manage it somehow.)

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    Just be classy about it, Neely. Just walk up to a woman and ask, "Do you like lookin' at dudes' dicks?" Women like directness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehound View Post
    I am bi and enjoy looking at both the male and female form. But I would have to admit that generally a sexy woman is more appealing to look at than a sexy man.
    I don’t like tonnes of muscles particularly and I don’t like hairy men, so maybe I am just fussier about what men I like to look at. Most women in the right lighting/angle/pose can look good naked.
    A lot of sexy is just confidence, for men or women I think.

    It’s possibly just a matter of conditioning, we except that women are sex objects in a rather serious way but not so much with men. It’s more of a joke. Most men would probly feel awkward posing even for their partner to admire them (the way a woman will when emerging from the bathroom for example) and in turn it is not “traditional” for us to comment on their appearance, the way they do with us. We are more inclined to praise their actions.

    I love to see my guy naked, especially from behind as I love his bum, I can’t stop myself from giving him and it a squeeze. But I wouldn’t automatically say something complimentary; I will make a point of doing so today.

    For the record I tend to go for fully clothed nerdy types over muscle men too, give me
    The Doctor http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/
    or
    Sherlock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Cumberbatch
    Anytime !
    I don't usually follow links, so I don't know what those are.

    With my girlfriend, I like to sit and sort of gaze into her eyes. She has the most beautiful blue eyes I've ever seen. And I like to just look at her, and hug her, only her, not other women. And we often sleep in the same bed -- but it's not sexual. I'm sure I'm not bi. But for some reason, when it comes to men, I'm attracted to some characteristics, both in appearance and in personality, that may be considered somewhat feminine. However, it does have to be a complete man. I don't know what any of this is about! I don't like muscular men. That's a complete turnoff.

    My brother is gay and has a partner, and they are in the closet. So when we go out, it's those two, and my girlfriend and I, and it looks as though we're two straight couples. That's not what it is, but we can blend in and not be picked on - either the guys by women or my girlfriend and I by men.

    I find that I have a hard time not commenting, even with my girlfriend! I'm always saying, "I love your eyes!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi View Post
    Just be classy about it, Neely. Just walk up to a woman and ask, "Do you like lookin' at dudes' dicks?" Women like directness!
    We wouldn't want Neely to be facing a sexual harassment lawsuit at work lol.
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    I want to say up front that this is not about me, it's just an observation.

    I know I should leave this alone, I should not go there, but it is incomprehensible to me how you could care for a man in that way - I don't mean a one night stand - but someone you love, and not want to look at him or touch him - to say, "I like him better with his clothes on." ? Or "I want it dark." ? Or "Keep a distance from me." ? Whatever they say, I don't know, but there has to be something in the drinking water that has affected people's brains! I would be saying, "You like baths, sounds good to me, how do you like showers?"

    I might also wonder, "Does she love him or not?" But then, what's not to love?

    It's definitely time for me to take a considerable break from the forum!!
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