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    Of course, you should be more interested in what's yours. But if I didn't own a hammer I'd borrow one from a neighbor. Instead of filling your childrens heads with propaganda about how great their own tradition is, you would probably be better off just teaching them from the best texts available. I'd be pretty upset if my kid was only reading American literature and wasn't getting the best education possible. Vonnegut is alright, but he's no Shakespeare. It's not a native issue, it's a matter of quality. When you only have so much time to reach the little devils, why waste both your times on second rate garbage, even if it was manufactured in the next town over?
    While I do not deny that American literature has its great writers and texts, "the best literature possible" does not feature a predominantly American canon in my eyes. There is something to be said of the tradition of American literature, but it is hardly as original or amazing as its promoters make it seem - generally speaking, it is in part American self-promotion (you mention promoting while only having Poe and Cooper) and American ignorance of outside traditions that perhaps leads to this confusion. Simply put, the US is but a short segment of literary history, and its texts, though many are good, are not the be all and end all of literature.

    In the textbook for high schoolers, or universities then, why not discuss a place for American literature? Well, we can start by suggesting that the Chinese tradition is longer and more developed, which is a known fact, and that the English tradition benefits from a longer history of writers, and of readers - as do the Italian, French, German, Japanese, etc. traditions - so perhaps we should add them too. While we are at it then, we can say in the past 100 years Latin American authors have also been very influential and powerful players in the development of literature in the world, especially in prose fiction - the works of magical realist authors and nationalist authors using distinctly Latin American-originated motifs and tropes have made it as far as China and back - so we must look at them to while we make our list. Then there are historical presidents - we have our classic canon, from Homer, the Bible on one side, and from hundreds of other texts on others - surely if we are having this great exposure to the great authors, they must be included.

    Do not get me wrong, I promote reading great books, but simply put, if you insist that I as a Canadian aught to be appreciating Walt Whitman, I return the challenge and suggest that one cannot say that without first reading the Japanese Book of One Thousand Leaves without realizing a cultural bias that takes its own tradition too seriously. IT is important to read American books, but they are not the be all and end all as many Americans forget.

    Likewise English is but one language in the world that just happens to be the major language now (not that Chinese is not an equal rival).

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    It's funny how much personal opinions and outlooks can change in eight months.

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    Cool You have apparently chosen the wrong career ....

    I would suggest you turn to real estate or car sales before you damage any students' budding love of literature.

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    All classics are boring, that's why they're classics.

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    Jude the Obscure, by Hardy, blends Victorian ideals and morales with the modern novel and modern writing style. Some say that it's the precursor to Existentialism with institutions, like Christianity, marriage, and higher education, failing the protagonist, and thus, failing Jude. Happiness, in the context to this novel, would be seen as Romanticism in Jude's eyes. Indeed, Jude's actions and fruits of his labor lead him to utter failure time, and time again.

    Awesome read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfloyd View Post
    I would suggest you turn to real estate or car sales before you damage any students' budding love of literature.
    Did you read the whole thread? Probably not. And if you have, you're just being obtuse, and I don't feel like rehashing what I've made perfectly clear.

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    Siddhartha is uber easy and is a philosophical detour from the Western "I must have this" materialism. Very well written, simple to follow, simple to understand; I can't imagine having any students struggling to understand this.

    Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice is the commonplace love story, just better written. The girls will slurp that up, the guys will dig it for the girls, and it covers early English Lit.

    Perhaps not yet considered a classic, Italo Calvino's Cosmocomics is a strong introduction to Post-Moderism. It's wildly entertaining, taking the storyline of an essential immortal being that, in the various short stories engrossing the tale, takes different forms and goes through different periods. Enlightening? Perhaps not. But entertaining nonetheless.

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    Now I havent read this whole thread BUT, it amazes me how much people are jumping on Mutatis, he simply said some of the classics were boring to him, not the majority, some classics bore me too and I'm an English major (planning on teaching), I guess I have to switch majors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoReader View Post
    I guess I have to switch majors...
    Nah, the rest of us will need someone to serve us coffee on our way to work...

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    I would suggest you turn to real estate or car sales before you damage any students' budding love of literature.
    are you being serious? b/c I don't see the sarcasm emoticon!

    seriously, for so many that consider themselves literature buffs they have proven to not be very good readers.

    the OP never stated that they don't like the classics, or a majority of the classics. I don't know how often I've read from people that they were forced to read so many classics or long books in school and were turned off by literature and reading, this can only be a bad thing for us all.

    these same people have subsequently said that perhaps 15 or 20 years later they have returned to some of these books and had a new appreciation of them. Sometimes the books are just above us as younger students and the OP is just simply trying to find ways to keep their students engaged in the reading process. Whether you want to read that as "entertained" or however that's your decision.

    a simple post looking for help from a literature-experienced crowd turns ugly with lots of judging IMO.

    the great thing about literature, even just taking into consideration English language literature, is that it is so vast and broad there is something for everyone. I'd bet quite a bit not everyone here likes every single classic or author, and there's nothing wrong with that - but the OP is in the same boat.

    just my thoughts, and sorry I don't have any more thoughts as to what actually to read besides what's been dutifully offered here so far. All good suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by der wegwerfer View Post
    are you being serious? B/c i don't see the sarcasm emoticon!

    Seriously, for so many that consider themselves literature buffs they have proven to not be very good readers.

    The op never stated that they don't like the classics, or a majority of the classics. I don't know how often i've read from people that they were forced to read so many classics or long books in school and were turned off by literature and reading, this can only be a bad thing for us all.

    These same people have subsequently said that perhaps 15 or 20 years later they have returned to some of these books and had a new appreciation of them. Sometimes the books are just above us as younger students and the op is just simply trying to find ways to keep their students engaged in the reading process. Whether you want to read that as "entertained" or however that's your decision.

    A simple post looking for help from a literature-experienced crowd turns ugly with lots of judging imo.

    The great thing about literature, even just taking into consideration english language literature, is that it is so vast and broad there is something for everyone. I'd bet quite a bit not everyone here likes every single classic or author, and there's nothing wrong with that - but the op is in the same boat.

    Just my thoughts, and sorry i don't have any more thoughts as to what actually to read besides what's been dutifully offered here so far. All good suggestions.
    thank you

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    Thank you both, .

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    LOL at the delusional people who think an English major or even English teacher shouldn't find any classic boring.

    If you are one and you don't, you must've not read enough classics.

    Besides, do you think Bio or History or Math or Chem or Physics or Philosophy majors don't find ANY parts of their subject boring?

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