It is no reason at all, however it is funny.Originally Posted by YesNo
That's as good a reason as any to post something.
It is no reason at all, however it is funny.
I would rather accept the meaningless, void, empty, creepy world for what it is rather than try and deny it with notions of the supernatural. Why should we desire to see the world through placated eyes. Our anger is allayed but still present. I would rather be present with it because suspending my own presence to avoid something too painfully present is only self-detrimental; the world still remains as it is.
Is not nihilism a persona too, lieasleep? Is not authenticity for when you are dead? What is reality, and what is truth? Is not beauty truth, and ugliness true too? Are we not alienate from the world, and in our loneliness seek comfort? Is not the light blinding as the darkness is cool? Is not black a shade of white? Am I not asking a lot of questions? Is it not all illusion? How does one become certain? Where are we, and what are we here for? Can you not answer my questions?
Haha I can try to answer a few. Please accept some suspended humility. I only attempt answering some of this because it is fun. Disregard the answers themselves completely.
It is a persona that is attempting to not be a persona; although it is not whether or not it is a persona, it is.
No, Hamlet, authenticity too is a self-qualified, relative non-existent and, when related back to to nihilism and persona, actually destroys any idea of existent value in culture, tradition, and/ or authenticity beyond our actions which reflect our own reflections.
No truth in relativity beyond a self-qualified one, even a self-qualified one hidden behind a highly affected self-qualification. We only make choices based on experience and desire but being informed by experience leads to affect. I am extremely affected but I am still making the choice to be affected. I am still taking the action of effect.
We are not alienate from the world because we are a part of it. We are arrangement of atoms, very physical existent atoms that are constantly entering and becoming a part of us (in the corporeal sense) and then again, in this same sense, moving out of us; what you consider the world, the physical universe, may very well be a part of you soon and may very well have been you; you once considered the dust on your floor you.
I don't really feel like answering anymore. Real fun trying to answer though.
"Man simply is." Sartre
Is he nothing else? Am I not my brother's keeper?
Last edited by G L Wilson; 06-02-2011 at 12:20 AM.
Nope. Responsibility is is another one of those self-qualified relative blah blah blahs. Choke by Pahalniuk is all about that, despite my hating that book, it made some good points.
Since you seem to think all is relative, why don't you try suicide and see if there is any certainty in that?
The nihilist thinks that nothing's more important than any other. Kurt Vonnegut is an example. (I knew that there was something which annoyed me about that guy.)
I believe in God because He's the only one who never failed me.
I believe in God because when I need Him,I find Him next to me.
I believe in God because when I knock on his door , He always opens his door to me.
I believe in God because when I call Him , He always answers back and listens to me.
I believe in God because I'm so mean to Him , but still He is so kind to me!
Last edited by caddy_caddy; 06-02-2011 at 02:07 PM.
"The Lord is a man of war." Exodus
Well said...
Les Miserables,
Volume 1, Fifth Book, Chapter 3
Remember this, my friends: there are no such things as bad plants or bad men. There are only bad cultivators.
How can God fail you, caddy_caddy, when he doesn't exist?
I like living. One day it will be over. Why now? Not everything is relative, a bunch of things that don't actually exist are relative. "Isn't existence relative?" No. Not a huge fan of solipsism.
And Vonnegut is a self-described humanist. Can someone be a humanist and a nihilist at the same time? Seems like humanism still takes a certain amount of faith that is really contradictory to nihilism.
I am that I am, and who is to dispute me?
I cannot be God, for I exist because a baby has smiled at me. Proof of existence is in laughter. The Sufis say that the world began with a smile, why should I not die laughing?
Last edited by G L Wilson; 06-03-2011 at 03:26 AM.
He exists within me.
You know, outside my house there is a lot of trees full of birds; they keep singing but for years I've never noticed their existence; I've never remember that I heard them once; it's only when I began to love the birds' songs that they exist to me.
So marvelously written. All we see is the reflection of what we have inside and our strong faith enables us to see the beauty of everything.
You are right Caddy in saying you can see the awe-inspiring beauty of nature since there is beauty inside you since you feel the message of the creator of the universe.
“Those who seek to satisfy the mind of man by hampering it with ceremonies and music and affecting charity and devotion have lost their original nature””
“If water derives lucidity from stillness, how much more the faculties of the mind! The mind of the sage, being in repose, becomes the mirror of the universe, the speculum of all creation.
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