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    been sitting and reading in the wings for months and will comment someday on any all things, but I'm here to ask for advice about quitting smoking. I will not do hypnosis but anything else is possible. I can't drive 55, and it's also too young to die. RSVP
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrekken View Post
    been sitting and reading in the wings for months and will comment someday on any all things, but I'm here to ask for advice about quitting smoking. I will not do hypnosis but anything else is possible. I can't drive 55, and it's also too young to die. RSVP
    Quitting the cancer sticks depends on a number of factors. If you drink, I assume you do as you are a paid up memer of the Blokes Thread, this makes the task doubly harder. Do you regularly exercise ? Giving up the cigs can mean a dramatic weight increase and obesity brings its own problems. Have you got a short fuse as this can be problematic for your nearest and dearest ? Just throw the pack in the bin and let will power do the rest.

    Since you mentioned the rock anthem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrekken View Post
    been sitting and reading in the wings for months and will comment someday on any all things, but I'm here to ask for advice about quitting smoking. I will not do hypnosis but anything else is possible. I can't drive 55, and it's also too young to die. RSVP
    There are some pretty useful prescription drugs that have had good success with smokers giving up. First step, talk to your doctor!
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    Atheist is right, nicotine replacement as gum, patch, or pill are a good first step. They're healthier than the cigs, although still come with problems like heart and blood pressure risk. They're also costly, but the idea is to wean yourself off them eventually.
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    Your mind set is the most important thing, you must really, really want to give up. There can be no equivication or doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanPip View Post
    Atheist is right, nicotine replacement as gum, patch, or pill are a good first step. They're healthier than the cigs, although still come with problems like heart and blood pressure risk.
    That's why a visit to the Dr should be the first step.

    The side-effects from replacement therapy is infinitely smaller than that of tobacco and the best results by far are with people who use replacement therapy.

    There is also a drug which acts like nicotine, but it has some potentially fatal psychological effects. (Varenicline)

    Sorry, I should have expanded on the earlier comment, but I was in a bit of a hurry.

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    They're also costly, but the idea is to wean yourself off them eventually.
    They're heavily subsidised here, but either way, they cost a fraction of cigarettes.

    One other thing which may be worth trying - for some idiotic reason they are banned here - Swedish snus.

    While they are by no means "safe", they are much, much safer than smoking.
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
    That's why a visit to the Dr should be the first step.

    The side-effects from replacement therapy is infinitely smaller than that of tobacco and the best results by far are with people who use replacement therapy.

    There is also a drug which acts like nicotine, but it has some potentially fatal psychological effects. (Varenicline)

    Sorry, I should have expanded on the earlier comment, but I was in a bit of a hurry.



    They're heavily subsidised here, but either way, they cost a fraction of cigarettes.

    One other thing which may be worth trying - for some idiotic reason they are banned here - Swedish snus.

    While they are by no means "safe", they are much, much safer than smoking.
    It is ironic that we have to resort to another drug to help resolve our original drug addiction. In my community the devestation of heroin addiction is highly visible. The skeletor like mother pushing her buggy, carrying her skeletor like bairn to the chemist in order to get her methadone alternative. Then the dealers standing outside the door to collect her benefit money. Happy days.
    " There are few more impressive sights in the world than a Scotsman on the make. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocky View Post
    It is ironic that we have to resort to another drug to help resolve our original drug addiction. In my community the devestation of heroin addiction is highly visible. The skeletor like mother pushing her buggy, carrying her skeletor like bairn to the chemist in order to get her methadone alternative. Then the dealers standing outside the door to collect her benefit money. Happy days.
    Same thing happens here in the poor areas - half the population are starving their kids to pay for crystal methamphetamine while the other half drives around in late model BMWs on the proceeds of selling it.

    Why is heroin such a problem in Scotland? It seems to be the last bastion of shooting drugs; just about everywhere else has moved on to coke or meth.
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    The problems are the same here in certain areas. They're easy to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post

    Why is heroin such a problem in Scotland? It seems to be the last bastion of shooting drugs; just about everywhere else has moved on to coke or meth.
    Rather than read my tortuous attempt at an explanation I will let the brilliantly droll Jonathon Meades offer an insight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrekken View Post
    been sitting and reading in the wings for months and will comment someday on any all things, but I'm here to ask for advice about quitting smoking. I will not do hypnosis but anything else is possible. I can't drive 55, and it's also too young to die. RSVP
    Good to hear that you are starting down the path to quitting!
    I never picked up the habit myself, but my wife has been on and off that wagon many times over the years so I can relate, to some degree, how tough it is to break the habit.
    The patches seem to offer the best results in my wife's case. However, you must have the discipline to stick to the regimen. Job stress is her Achiiles heel.
    Good luck and we're pulling for you.

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    Jocky.

    Brilliant! I love his dead pan delivery, dryer than a kangeroos armpit.

    What ever happened to the traditional saturday night out in Glasgie eh? When after a long shift all the welders and platers would get together to unwind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odEHDf_pJ4M

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    Crikey. Horror earthquake in Christchurch. 65 dead, expected to at least double.

    Unbelievably, it's an aftershock from the non-fatal earthquake last year.

    The world's falling to bits!
    Go to work, get married, have some kids, pay your taxes, pay your bills, watch your tv, follow fashion, act normal, obey the law and repeat after me: "I am free."

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    Quote Originally Posted by prendrelemick View Post
    Jocky.

    Brilliant! I love his dead pan delivery, dryer than a kangeroos armpit.

    What ever happened to the traditional saturday night out in Glasgie eh? When after a long shift all the welders and platers would get together to unwind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odEHDf_pJ4M
    Agreed. Brilliant clip.

    As for Andy Stewart - New Year's eve was the only time we ever heard or saw him in Yorkshire. I'd have preferred a good film.

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    Just seen the reports of the earthquake in NZ. It looks pretty bad this time.

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