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    Sunday Special, May 30, 2021

    “Lord Byron ‘s esteemed associates in Greece”, born 1784

    Alternative title: Comptes rendus des journaux Grecs et Français sur les vies parallèles des hommes illustres de la Grèce modern by Constantine Metaxas (1793 – 1870)*

    For genealogy gurmets only



    • Sir Richard Church CB GCH ; 23 February 1784 – 20 March 1873)
    • François-Joseph Fétis (French: [fetis]; 25 March 1784 – 26 March 1871) was a Belgian musicologist, composer, teacher, and one of the most influential music critics of the 19th century. His enormous compilation of biographical data in the Biographie universelle des musiciens remains an important source of information today.
    • Jacopo Ferretti (16 July 1784 – 7 March 1852) was an Italian writer, poet and opera librettist. His name is sometimes written as Giacomo Ferretti.He is most famous for having supplied the libretti for two operas composed by Rossini and for five operas composed by Donizetti
    • Leicester FitzGerald Charles Stanhope, 5th Earl of Harrington CB (2 September 1784 – 7 September 1862)[1] styled The Honourable Leicester Stanhope until 1851, was an English peer and soldier . He is known as a worker with Lord Byron in the cause of Greek independence, although while he was in Greece in 1823 and 1824 his relations with Byron were not altogether harmonious. He wrote A Sketch of the History and Influence of the Press in British India (1823), and Greece in 1823 and 182
    • James Henry Leigh Hunt (19 October 1784** – 28 August 1859), best known as Leigh Hunt, was an English critic, essayist and poet. Leigh Hunt left England for Italy in November 1821, but storm, sickness, and misadventure delayed his arrival until 1 July 1822. Thomas Love Peacock compared their voyage to that of the character Ulysses in Homer's Odyssey.
    • Theophile Kaires (19 Oct 1784** – 13 Jan 1853) was an illuminated greek philosopher, teacher and politician, in charge of the May 1822 failed revolt of mount Olympus, Thessaly, Greece (translated from grk)
    • Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston, KG, GCB, PC, FRS (20 October 1784 – 18 October 1865)
    • Theocletos or Theocharis Pharmakides , (1784 – 1860), a greek national teacher and leading illuminato of modern Greece, fighter in 1821 uprising , cleric and pioneer newspaper editor.(translated from grk)



    * Ο Κωνσταντίνος Μεταξάς (1793 - 1870) ήταν Έλληνας αγωνιστής της Επανάστασης του 1821 και πολιτικός από την Κεφαλονιά. Βίοι Παράλληλοι των επί της αναγεννήσεως της Ελλάδος διαπρεψάντων ανδρών, Εκ του Τυπογραφείου Μ. Π. Περίδου, Εν Αθήναις, 1875, τ. Ζ', σ. 157) (Comptes rendus des journaux Grecs et Français sur les vies parallèles des hommes illustres de la Grèce moderne).
    (Ο Γεώργιος Λασσάνης (Κοζάνη, 1793 - Αθήνα, 7 Ιουλίου 1870) ήταν Έλληνας λόγιος και πολιτικός από την Κοζάνη. Ο Γ. Λασσάνης ανέπτυξε δραστηριότητα ως συγγραφέας, δραματουργός, δάσκαλος ενώ παράλληλα συμμετείχε στην επανάσταση του 1821. Ήταν συνεργάτης του Αλ. Υψηλάντη και βοήθησε στην προετοιμασία της ελληνικής επανάστασης στις Παραδουνάβιες Ηγεμονίες. Μετά την ίδρυση του ελλήνικου κράτους κατέλαβε υψηλά αξιώματα.)

    **vies extremement paralelle
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    error: parallèles

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    John Cam Hobhouse, 1st Baron Broughton...

    John Cam Hobhouse, 1st Baron Broughton...

    ...and other associates (*1786):


    John Cam Hobhouse, 1st Baron Broughton, GCB, PC, FRS (27 June 1786 – 3 June 1869), known as Sir John Hobhouse, Bt, from 1831 to 1851, was an English politician and diarist

    Giacomo Cordella (Naples, 25 July 1786 – Naples, 8 May 1847) was an Italian composer. (list of works check)

    Ο Γεώργιος Γεννάδιος (1786 Σηλυβρία Θράκης - 1854) ήταν διδάσκαλος του Γένους στην Επανάσταση του 1821.

    Ο Γεώργιος Καντακουζηνός, ρωσικά Egor (1786 - 1857) ήταν Ρώσος πρίγκηπας με ελληνική παιδεία, γόνος της φαναριώτικης οικογένειας των Καντακουζηνών, συνταγματάρχης του ρωσικού στρατού, κτηματίας και βασικό μέλος της Φιλικής Εταιρείας.

    Raimondi, Pietro (20/12/1786 - 30/10/1853) composer

    John Cam outlived them all, just like Richard Church before!
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    Cesare Sterbini (1784 – 19 January 1831) was an Italian writer and librettist.Possessing a deep knowledge of classical and contemporary culture, philosophy, linguistics, he was fluent in Greek, Latin, Italian, French and German. He is best known as the librettist for two operas by Gioachino Rossini: Torvaldo e Dorliska (1815) and The Barber of Seville (1816). An official in the Pontifical Administration, he also set poetry to music as an amateur. He wrote the libretto to the opera Il Contraccambio to the music of Giacomo Cordella in 1819, and the opera Isaura and Ricciardo to the music of Francesco Basili in 1820.[1]

    Francesco Giuseppe Baldassare Morlacchi[1] (14 June 1784 – 28 October 1841) was an Italian composer of more than twenty operas. During the many years he spent as the royal Royal Kapellmeister in Dresden, he was instrumental in popularizing the Italian style of opera.
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    Freiherr von Türk(?) *10 August 1750, composer and german(!) diplomat


    Daniel Gottlob Türk (10 August 1750 – 26 August 1813) was a German composer, organist, and music professor of the Classical period.Born in Claußnitz, Saxony, Türk studied organ under his father and later under Johann Adam Hiller.[1] It was Hiller who recommended Türk for his first professional position at Halle University, in Halle, Germany. On 18 April 1779 Halle University granted Türk's request to begin lecturing on music theory, making him the University's "Director of Music." This appointment made Türk the second university music director in Germany.[2] While at Halle, Türk published his treatise On the Role of the Organist in Worship which is still occasionally reprinted.

    Andreas Eberhard Freiherr[1] von Budberg-Bönninghausen (10 August 1750 – 1 September 1812) was a Baltic German diplomat who served as Foreign Minister in 1806–07.In 1784 he was appointed a tutor to Catherine's grandson Alexander I and held this position until 1795. In 1793 Budberg was sent to Stockholm to arrange marriage of Catherine's granddaughter Alexandra Pavlovna and young king of Sweden Gustav IV Adolf. Initially consent was given, but later Gustav IV Adolf renounced the betrothal. Two years later Budberg was appointed ambassador in Sweden. In 1799 Catherine II died and Paul I succeeded her. Paul I disliked Budberg and soon he was forced to resign.In 1804 Alexander I appointed him to the State Council. Budberg was known for his distrust of Napoleon and in 1806 he became Minister of Foreign Affairs. However, in 1807 when the treaties of Tilsit were signed, he resigned and retired from politics.

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    Von Türk must be examined (by others) along with :

    Antonio Salieri (18 August 1750 – 7 May 1825)

    Jacques-Marie Deschamps (1750, Paris – 1826)

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    must be examined by others" because a more intriguing item is on the table now:

    Whether composer Heinrich Marschner (1795–1861).is same as:

    -Armand Pierre Caussin de Perceval (*1795) *footnote 1

    -Ioannis & Lazaros Anastasiou Kokkinis (one person) captain*1795 aka Giovanni d'Anastasi*1795 ,

    -Greek composer Nikolaos Mantzaros*1795 ,

    -Italian composer Giuseppe Saverio Raffaele Mercadante*1795 ..

    AND..

    -Frederick William IV, King of Prussia(*1795) from 7 June 1840 to his death.

    plus (thickening the plot):

    -Nicolo or Nicolas Giraud (c. 1795 – after 1815) was a friend and possibly a lover of the English Romantic poet Lord Byron.

    -Jacques-Étienne Marconis de Nègre (3 January 1795, Montauban, - 21 November, 1868, Paris) was a French writer and active Freemason.[1]

    -Felix-Auguste Adolphe Duvert (born January 12, 1795 in Paris , † October 19, 1876 there ) was a French playwright and vaudevillist .


    The following *95ers will be ignored for now :

    Jean-François-Maxime Raybaud (+1 January 1894) La Colle-sur-Loup, Alpes-Maritimes)

    John William Polidori (+24 August 1821)

    Karl Ludwig Sand(+ 20 May 1820)


    *footnote1 aka Champollion le Jeune !!
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    Mercadante, Mantzaros and King Frederick William IV are lookalikes. Caussin de Perceval is not, his photo being, most propably, a much needed "fix" (timelines already confirm a different story).
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    Add to post 368:

    Sir Charles Barry FRS RA (23 May 1795 – 12 May 1860) was a British architect, best known for his role in the rebuilding of the Palace of Westminster (also known as the Houses of Parliament) in London during the mid-19th century, but also responsible for numerous other buildings and gardens. He is known for his major contribution to the use of Italianate architecture in Britain,[1] especially the use of the Palazzo as basis for the design of country houses, city mansions and public buildings. He also developed the Italian Renaissance garden style for the many gardens he designed around country houses.[2]

    "another" architect besides Frederick William IV, King of Prussia who, acc to Wikipedia: (is) remembered for the many buildings he had constructed in Berlin and Potsdam, as well as for the completion of the Gothic Cologne Cathedral.

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    *1795ers

    170 functional timeline entries provide sufficient evidence that the following were, most propably , the same person…..

    • Armand-Pierre Caussin de Perceval (13 January 1795 +15 January 1871)aka Giovanni d’ Anastasy’, aka Champollion Le Jeune
    • Sir Charles Barry FRS RA (23 May 1795 – 12 May 1860)
    • Thomas Carlyle (4 December 1795 – 5 February 1881)* footnote 1
    • Jean-François-Maxime Raybaud (19 June 1795 La Colle-sur-Loup, – 1 January 1894 La Colle-sur-Loup, Alpes-Maritimes) was a French philhellene officer and writer, and a participant in the War of Independence of Greece.
    • Heinrich August Marschner (16 August 1795 – 14 December 1861) was the most important composer of German opera between Weber and Wagner.
    • John William Polidori (7 September 1795 – 24 August 1821)* footnote 1
    • Giuseppe Saverio Raffaele Mercadante (baptised 17 September 1795 – 17 December 1870)
    • Frederick William IV (German: Friedrich Wilhelm IV.; 15 October 1795[3] – 2 January 1861),
    • Nikolaos Chalikiopoulos Mantzaros (Greek: Νικόλαος Χαλικιόπουλος Μάντζαρος, Greek, 26 October 1795 – 12 April 1872)
    • Alexander Grigoriyevich Stroganov ( 31 Decembre 1795 – 14 August 1891)* footnote 1




    …considering however relative implications, a 100% certainty can only be provided via concrete evidence, ie DNA tests.

    Should such be performed, they should also include King Frederick William IV’s father, Frederick William III (3 August 1770 – 7 June 1840) for an eventual match with Leopold Mozart (see Dec 1789).

    Relative timeline info can be provided to interested registered readers.


    *footnote1 +dates possibly wrong
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    add to previos post

    Correct: Leopold Mozart (see Dec 1769, conception of Frederick William III ).

    add to footnote 1: Maxime Raybaud (his +)
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    conc dec 1769 King Frederick William III of Prussia (d. 1840)

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    King Frederick William III of Prussia)

    Νov 1769 conceived Le comte Grigori Alexandrovitch Stroganov, (né le 16 septembre 1770 à Saint-Pétersbourg),

    Dec 1769 conceived King Frederick William III of Prussia (*3 August 1770)

    December 1769 : After one year in Salzburg, Leopold (*November 14, 1719 see five at least aliases, *1719-20 incl Giochino Cocchi) and Wolfgang set off for Italy, leaving Anna Maria and Nannerl at home. This tour lasted from December 1769 to March 1771. As with earlier journeys, Leopold wanted to display his son's abilities as a performer and a rapidly maturing composer. Wolfgang met Josef Mysliveček and Giovanni Battista Martini in Bologna and was accepted as a member of the famous Accademia Filarmonica. In Rome, he heard Gregorio Allegri's Miserere twice in performance, in the Sistine Chapel, and wrote it out from memory, thus producing the first unauthorized copy of this closely guarded property of the Vatican.[21][22]

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    To follow next

    Frederick II The Great (24 January 1712 – 17 August 1786)

    The same hard -to -believe truth concerning Frederick William IV ( 15 October 1795[3] – 2 January 1861)’ s father, also applies to Frederick II The Great (24 January 1712 – 17 August 1786) and his father :Frederick William I (* 14 August 1688 – 31 May 1740), known as the "Soldier King" (German: Soldatenkönig[1]*.

    *Certainly fluent in English, French and German , a famous composer and a poet (with countless aliases), among others: In other words "Voltaire" (Handel, Bach, Claudius Amyand (+1740) etc,fathered Frederick the Great(thus explaining their lifelasting relationship and Frederick's promotion of Coccejis)!!
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