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    add to posts 319, 328 : 6 septembre 1726-octobre 1731, mission de Théodore Chevignard de Chavigny en Allemagne (*3 avril 1687, Beaune +1771, Paris),: d'après ses mémoires inédits et sa correspondance politique, conserves aux archives du Ministère des affaires étrangères ..., 1911

    and Mr Thomas Robinson,( 1st Baron Grantham, KB, PC * 1695)

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    Charles VI, Veracini and Predieri were ...

    ...all actually born June 1688!

    23 septembre 1711 born, propably in Narbonne Occitania, Louis Nicolas Victor de Félix d'Ollières,(+10 oct 1775) comte du Muy, Surnom Maréchal de Muy


    18 Oct 1711 Luca Antonio Predieri (13 September 1688 – 3 January 1767) La virtù in trionfo o sia La Griselda (The triumph of virtue, or Griselda) dramma per musica in three acts, libretto by Tomaso Stanzani after Apostolo Zeno, premiered Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi, (score lost apart from the aria "Fa' di me ciò che ti piace")

    December 12 – A constitution is approved for the Academy of Sciences of the Institute of Bologna, which had been founded in 1690.

    15 December – Occasional Conformity Act bars nonconformists and Roman Catholics from public office.[6]

    15 December – The Old Pummerin, a massive bell cast from 208 captured cannons, is consecrated by Bishop Franz Ferdinand Freiherr von Rummel in preparation for its installation in St. Stephen's Cathedral, Vienna (the Stephansdom).


    22 December 1711, Frankfurt Coronation of Charles VI 1 October 1685 – 20 October 1740) was Holy Roman Emperor and ruler of the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy from 1711 until his death

    22 December 1711 Veracini's * February 1690 Violin Concerto in D Major, "a otto strumenti, di Francesco Maria Ueracini Suonato dallo stesso al post comunio", 1711), but was performed in Frankfurt rather than Venice, at Charles VI's coronation on 22 December 1711, just two days before Veracini's appearance as a soloist on Christmas Eve in Venice, some 800 kilometers to the south (Kolneder 1959–61; White 1972, 19).

    24 and 25 December 1711 Veracini He is known to have been a soloist in Venice at the Christmas masses at San Marco, on 24 and 25 December 1711 (Hill 2001

    25 December 1711 baptised, propably in Venice, Jean-Joseph de Mondonville (+8 October 1772),born in Narbonne Occitania

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    Another able player for the *1788ers club (incl Major-General Thomas Gordon (1788 – 20 April 1841), Felice Romani (31 January 1788 – 28 January 1865), George Gordon Byron, 6th Baron FRS (22 January 1788 – 19 April 1824), the Honourable Douglas James William Kinnaird (26 February 1788 – 12 March 1830) and irst lieutenant Carl Wilhelm von Heideck (1788–1861)...

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    O Γεώργιος Αινιάν (*1788 + Jan 1848 ).
    Text in greek as copied from wiki.gr

    Σπούδασε στη Μεγάλη τού Γένους Σχολή στην Κωνσταντινούπολη, όπου βρισκόταν η οικογένειά του, και εργάστηκε ως δάσκαλος για τα παιδιά τού Διερμηνέα Δημ. Μουρούζη. Συνδέθηκε με Φαναριώτες και μυήθηκε στη Φιλική Εταιρία. Εκεί γνώρισε τον Παπαφλέσσα, τον Περραιβό, τον Αναγνωσταρά κ.ά. Το 1818 επέστρεψε στη Φθιώτιδα και εργάστηκε για την προετοιμασία τού Αγώνα. Τότε έκανε και μικρή ανασκαφή στην «πυρά τού Ηρακλέους» στην Οίτη. Το 1821 συμμετείχε στον «Άρειο Πάγο», το κυβερνητικό όργανο τής Ανατολικής Χέρσου Ελλάδος και στην Εθνοσυνέλευση τής Επιδαύρου. Τον Απρίλιο τού 1823 ήταν πληρεξούσιος στη Β΄ Εθνοσυνέλευση τού Άστρους και τον Απρίλιο τού 1826 στην Γ΄ Εθνοσυνέλευση τής Επιδαύρου. Διετέλεσε γενικός έφορος των στρατευμάτων τής Στερεάς. Τον Απρίλιο τού 1827 έγραψε και εκφώνησε τον λόγο στην κηδεία τού Καραϊσκάκη. Μετά την απελευθέρωση, ο Καποδίστριας τον διόρισε μέλος τής Γερουσίας. Στην Δ΄ Εθνοσυνέλευση τού Άργους, το καλοκαίρι τού 1829, ήταν πληρεξούσιος τής Υπάτης. Την περίοδο τού Όθωνα ήταν Σύμβουλος τής Επικρατείας. Το 1833 διορίστηκε νομάρχης Χαλκίδας. Έγραψε πολλές μελέτες και άρθρα σε περιοδικά. Πέθανε τον Ιανουάριο τού 1848.

    For anyone with a good timeline to check and confirm.

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    and yet another high ranking *1788er, aptly named Clonaris. In March 1834, as Minister of Justice and Chief Judge at Napoli di Morea Court, Clonaris voted for Theodore Colocotronis execution to then become First President of Areios Pagos, Supreme Civil and Criminal Court of Greece Jan 1835.

    Ο Χριστόδουλος Κλονάρης ή Κλωνάρης (1788 - 1849) ήταν Έλληνας νομικός και πολιτικός από το Λιασκόβετσι της Ηπείρου[1], τη σημερινή Λεπτοκαρυά Ζαγορίου[2], πληρεξούσιος, μέλος του Πανελληνίου, επίτροπος της Επικράτειας στο Ανώτατο Δικαστήριο, γερουσιαστής, υπουργός επί της Δικαιοσύνης, πρώτος πρόεδρος του Αρείου Πάγου και επίτιμος καθηγητής στη νομική σχολή Αθηνών. el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Χριστόδουλος_Κλονάρης

    Thanks to Judge Anastasios Polyzoidis minority vote, Colocotronis survived and was released from prison, spring of 1835.



    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloning

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    Yours truly wishes to add just a few words on "Volta-Ire, Arouet", whom historians treat, eversince his birth, very "delicately" thus hiding his identity and therefore never explaining his 18th century- and beyond- supremacy:

    His 188 plus aliases make research on his real identity look nightmarish. However a patient researcher who would first make a list of all cosmopolitan personalities of Europe, born between 1680-1697 (dates of + to be ignored) and then throw in certain criteria (such as talents in Music, Diplomacy, Banking, Science, Languages, Medicine etc) will soon be rewarded.
    No less than 80 % of those in his collection are aliases and only a couple* were his true "self"!

    * "a couple" because at birth, baby "C" was used as a substitute for baby "S"!
    Last edited by yanni; 05-02-2021 at 03:46 AM. Reason: change 1695 to 1697

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    Cocchi Antonio

    Antonio Cocchi, a significant alias of our hero, surely deserves a better treatment by his future biographers:

    If he did die on 1 January 1758, as his wiki biographers presently claim, how could he have fathered a son- with quite an interesting bio- 11 years later?

    Francesco Cocchi , Figlio di Antonio e di Cristina Amadasi , Giurista, (born Copermio 1 febbraio 1769 +Parma 6 novembre 1838).

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    another couple of *1788ers to consider:

    Ο Γεώργιος Σταύρος (2 Ιανουαρίου 1788 – 31 Μαΐου 1869) υπήρξε Έλληνας ευεργέτης, μέλος της Φιλικής Εταιρείας και τραπεζίτης, με πεδίο σταδιοδρομίας εντός και εκτός του ελληνικού χώρου.

    COCCHI, Francesco. - Figlio di Clemente, agiato commerciante, nacque a Budrio (Bologna) il 13 febbr. 1788. morì a Bologna l'8 apr. 1865.I libretti dell'epoca, conservati per lo più all'Accadernia di S. Cecilia di Roma, testimoniano questa sua attività: si sa così che egli mise in scena le opere in musica Amuratte II di P. Raimondi (1813), Il trionfo di Alessandro Magno di G. Andreozzi (1815), Tancredi di Rossini (1815) e i balli eroici Boemondo (1814: il bozzetto si trova al Museo reale di belle arti di Copenaghen), La morte di Pompeiano (1815), Samandria liberata (1815) e forse anche La morte di Achille (1813) e Attila (1813).

    spaghetti bolognese?

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    Next project:

    To check if

    Heneage Finch, 3rd Earl of Aylesford (6 November 1715 – 9 May 1777), styled Lord Guernsey between 1719 and 1757, was a British peer and politician.

    is same as

    Louis Claude Dupin, seigneur de Francueil, dit Dupin de Francueil, né le 6 novembre 1715 à Châteauroux1 et mort à Paris le 6 juin 1786, est une figure du XVIIIe siècle

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    Hidden gems come to light !

    Returning to # 319 (SO, WHAT DID ACTUALLY HAPPEN iIN 1726?) -and by passing for simplicity other aliases of our hero:

    We find Voltaire , 2nd May 1726, being escorted from the Bastille to Calais and embarked for Britain.[46] (fake) to come next to

    June 11, 1726, Fleury convinced the king to deprive Henri I, Prince of Condé (*18 August 1692)Duke of Bourbon of his ministry : Prime Minister of France (2 December 1723 – june 11, 1726),

    along with

    Jean Pâris de Monmartel (*3 August 1690 at Moirans + 10 September 1766, at his château at Brunoy (died as Voltaire in 1778)

    Focusing on him:

    He was the youngest of the four Pâris brothers, who were financiers under Louis XIV and Louis XV. At the height of his fortunes he had 370,000 livres invested in the powerful Société d'Angola,[2][3] set up to deal in the Atlantic slave trade, managed by Antoine Walsh (22 janvier 1703 à Saint-Malo), the richest and most famous of the Irish of Nantes.[4] He held a number of titles: marquis of Brunoy,[5] count of Sampigny, baron Dagouville, count of Châteaumeillant,[5] d'Argenton et Veuil d'Argenson, viscount de la Motte Feuilly, baron Saint-Jeanvrin, Saligny et Marigny, seigneur of Villers-sur-Mer, Chateauneuf, La Chétardie, Varenne, Lamotte-Glauville, Bourgeauville, Drubec, des Humières, Le Donjon, La Forest les Dureaux, Lamirande, Lachetardie, and other places. (about 20 new aliases)

    Much later , his son Armand-Louis Joseph Paris de Monmartel (1748–81), State Counsellor, Grand Master of the Hotel of the King, Marquis de Brunoy, ceded his chateau (Brunoy) to the Comte de Provence (Louis XVIII (Louis Stanislas Xavier; 17 November 1755 – 16 September 1824), King of France from 1814 to 1824, except for the Hundred Days in 1815).

    A small but highly characteristc episode -among many others- of "Monange's" (poetic licence) life.

    As to our research project which brought to light the above:

    Yes, Heneage Finch, 3rd Earl of Aylesford (6 November 1715 – 9 May 1777) and Louis Claude Dupin, seigneur de Francueil, dit Dupin de Francueil, né le 6 novembre 1715 à Châteauroux (to add Châteauroux as one more alias to his father Jean Pâris!) were the same person (and had even more aliases)!!

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    Notice Historique sur le Bourg et le Chateau de Veuil

    Notice Historique sur le Bourg et le Chateau de Veuil avant 1799 PAR F.II DE LA TOUR DU BREUIL*, p.7 (published around 1870)

    @ https://www.furet.com/media/pdf/feui...2012888357.pdf

    Translated from French:

    In Louis XV archives is an entry dated Jan 1726, registered next in Paris Parlement archives on June 26, 1726 , certifying that the territories of Veuil, countdom of Veuil-d’ Argenson are owned by Msr Marc de Voyer de Paulmy , chevalier d’Argenson (*16 August 1696), State Counceilor and chancellor of le Duc d’Orleans.


    *as readers of Poe Decoded might remember , title and properties of "du Breuil" belonged to Augustin Henri Cochin and then to Emilie de Belsunce , granddaughter of Mme D’Epinay. Emilie married Dominique de Belsunce (who, by marriage, became "du Breuil" and "D’Epinay" following A.H.Cochin’s 1784 "death"). He is on record demolishing La Chevrette 1786. As lawyer Henry Cochin was Augustin Henri Cochin's father, the former's identity as "Voltaire" is hereby doublechecked.

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    To facilitate conclusions

    Louis XV (*15 February 1710) was 16yrs old in 1726 while "Voltaire plus aliases" were 38yrs old
    Last edited by yanni; 06-04-2021 at 04:22 AM. Reason: correct V's age (on 1726)

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    To readers who have in their library my study on Hydra Kokkini family:

    Even if Hydra archives register two different sons of Anastasis Kokkinis: Ioannis Anastasiou K and Lazaros Anastasiou K, their timelines prove* otherwise, ie they were either twins or one and the same person , born "early" 1795 (same as his francoarmenian(!) -Giovanni d' Anastasι - other "self" and all other previously listed here club *1795ers) such as Maxime Raybaud*1695

    *Only recently checked, my fault, sorry!
    Last edited by yanni; 05-09-2021 at 04:27 AM. Reason: 1795 instead of 1695, add Giovanni d'Anastasy, add Maxime Raybaud

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    ....and then we have Jean-François Champollion....

    ...(also known as Champollion le jeune ('the Younger'); 23 December 1790 – 4 March 1832), was a French scholar, philologist and orientalist, known primarily as the decipherer of Egyptien ieroglyphs and a founding figure in the field of Egyptology.

    Who, out of nowhere, as if by divine inspiration, managed to make sense out of his papyri to then meet an early but convenient death .

    Luckily his correspondence with his "brother" Fizeac survived , proving he was neither born nor die as wiki's "scholars" still want him to.

    He was definitely a *95er , Fizeac a *1775er controlling all meditteranean 1821 "business".

    Bravissimo!

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    Part of evidence that Champollion Fizeac was *1775 is the following:

    On April 4 1812, François-Adrien Boieldieu's (* December 1775) opera Jean de Paris is performed for the first time at the Théâtre Feydeau, Paris. It was his first production since returning to Paris from St. Petersburg. He was sometimes called the "French Mozart". In 1804, he had gone to Saint Petersburg to take up the post of court composer to the Tsar of Russia. He stayed until 1810.

    7 April 1812 Anne Louise Germaine de Staël, exiled from Paris by Napoleon, lived in her castle at nearby Coppet with . Albert Jean Michel de Rocca (1788 – 31 January 1818, born in Geneva,served in the French army during the Peninsular war and was seriously injured.) After returning to Geneva, he had an affair with Anne Luise who bore a son on 7 April 1812, whose father legitimated as Louis-Alphonse Rocca. They separated when Madame de Staël started on a European tour, to reach London through Vienna, Moscow, St. Petersburg and Stockholm.

    conceived april 1812 (*December 15, 1812) Louis Aimé Champollion, + 1894 (81-82) Son of Jacques-Joseph Champollion and Zoé Agathe Champollion

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    Intermezzo

    Starzer, Joseph (Johann Michael) (baptized Vienna, 5 Jan. 1728; d. Vienna, 22 Apr. 1787)) was an Austrian composer and violinist of the pre-classical period. He was active in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Vienna.Starzer contributed to the formation of the Vienna Tonkünstler-Societät in 1771. With Georg Christoph Wagenseil and Matthias Georg Monn he was a precursor of the First Viennese School. Starzer composed several ballets, symphonies, concerts, the Singspiel Die drei Pächter, and other orchestral works and chamber music.

    Niccolò Piccinni (Italian: [nikkoˈlɔ ppitˈtʃinni]; 16 January [O.S. 5 January] 1728 - 7 May 1800) was an Italian composer of symphonies, sacred music, chamber music, and opera.

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