For or against?
Is it a good thing? Or bad?
Is there enough of of it? Too much of it? Not enough of it?
Let's hear what the panel thinks...
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For or against?
Is it a good thing? Or bad?
Is there enough of of it? Too much of it? Not enough of it?
Let's hear what the panel thinks...
Not enough.
Good thing if it's a chick and she's hot.
Damn right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi
Haha, wtf?
On the bus, against. It's a sticky-ness issue. Also, the smell of a lot of exposed body parts in an enclosed metal tube can't be good.
What's wrong with Natalie Portman? She has never posed nude, that's what's wrong with Natalie Portman. I want satisfaction, and I ain't getting any.
Yes we have a partiality of view. The chaps above are only thinking of certain types of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Clothes are worn for good reason not least the need to keep things reigned in. No-one wants to get things trapped in bus doors and the like.
Can't think it will ever catch on here in Wales. As my Oz cousin once remarked, she had to emigrate to Australia before she found out it was possible to sit on a beach without a mac and a scarf.....
Be careful you don't get what you wish for.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1695/fatbikini.jpg
What about builder's cleavage?
I wouldn't know anything about that but there are one or two on Litnet who probably do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN
not enough of it.
"Clothes are worn for good reason"
Pockets certainly. I wouldn't care if I were seen walking nude into a shop, but I'd be dead before I were seen carrying a handbag.
Geez, Emil Miller, what is it with you and naked, fat girls?
And guys, nakedness is not just for the opposite sex, capiche?
I’d like to see private nudity outlawed. Most accidents happen in the home. Therefore, I think people should be required to wear motorcycle helmets in the shower, and we should install video cameras in all bathrooms to assure compliance.
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Originally Posted by Ecurb
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Originally Posted by Ecurb
For.
For any number of reasons.
I'm from Guelph, Ontario, and we are the home of a woman who fought for women to have the right to be topless in public (as well as men) and some friends and I celebrate this every year with a topless bike ride.
Haha, I remember that (not the bike ride, the topless Guelph woman).
Against. Generally speaking people just look so much better with clothes on, besides sitting next to a naked person in a bus would just be gross.
At least here it's too cold for nudity for most of the year, thank God for the small mercies :D Though then again, some Finns seem to have a thing for nudity. For example when we won the Ice Hockey World Championship this year, some people celebrated by stripping their clothes and running around naked in the centre... and it wasn't a warm night! Then we have the sauna culture, of course, but that's different. Of course you are naked in a sauna, it's not really a "public" place in that sense, even if it is a public sauna.
I don't actually see the point of public nudity. Although I have to admit participating in a naked run might be fun.
Think of the hygienic factor, I'd be buying stock in those antibiacterial wipes. I don't want to come in contact with anyone else's *** sweat except my own.
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Originally Posted by Emil Miller
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by papayahed
If I want to see cauliflower, I will go to the market. I don't want to see it in the form of cellulite of arses and backs of legs.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...auliflower.JPG
RE: The hygienic factor
Imagine the oozing of lesions and carbuncles on public transit seats.
Yes; I can think of some positives such as Barbara Eden, Raquel Welch, but I'm afraid that the negatives outweigh the positives.
My friends and I "streaked" one night when we were camping out in the backyard. We thought we were real hip running through a sleeping, tranquil neighborhood at 3:00 am.
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It's always useful to consider the downside in any proposition.
Take a look at the videos to get the full picture.
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...L87E8QP8isW_Aw
I concede my argument is lost.
Oh Emil, ICK!!! I have to really refrain from using that little puke symbol. :lol:
I watched a movie the other night called Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus, starring Nicole Kidman. She was involved with nudist camps, and she had an affair with a man who looked like an animal, covered with fur or hair. I watched the movie twice and never could figure out what it was about exactly, except that she was drawn to this strange man, and I think he was imaginary. I don't know, there was something compelling about the movie, so I'll probably have to watch it a third time.
One thing that surprised me about Iceland was that the Icelanders don't have anywhere near as much of a taboo on nudity as the rest of Western Europe - odd, given their climate!
As soon as I arrived in Iceland, I went for a swim in the famous Blue Lagoon. Now, in that, obviously, you were required to wear swimming shorts - but in the changing rooms there were signs that enforced nudity in there: "All vistors MUST shower WITHOUT swimwear before entering the lagoon." These showers were very public, by the way - no barriers or curtains whatsoever.
You could tell who was Icelandic and who was not simply by how bashful they were. The Icelanders were striding around the room completely stark and without a second thought, while all the foreigners were much more furtive. I'll admit that while I was in the shower, my eyes were fixed firmly on the ceiling to avoid seeing anything, or even worse, see someone seeing me.
Public nudity is most definitely over-rated.
Certainly, nudity in an intimate setting is far more compelling.
Nudity, generally good. I've never had many bad experiences nude, and many good experiences. I need to insert Semi-Public as another category. Deserted beach for example.
I agree that there may be instances when clothes may be removed in private. Many years ago, I was walking along a valley in the Ticino, the Italian part of Switzerland when I saw a small lake of clear water. The weather was hot and it looked so inviting I stripped off and went in, but that was in a sparsely populated area. I would never dream of doing so when other people, who might be offended, were in the offing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonywalt
Yes, exactly, Tony and Emil. I couldn't sleep at all last night after Googling the Blue Lagoon. I like the idea of geothermal water in a cold climate, as opposed to what we have, warm air and cold water. I understand now that there's more in Iceland than the last attraction of eating a 1,500 year-old chunk of ice.
You certainly wouldn't want shorts in the Blue Lagoon. And then they shove a British guy into a shower right along with the Americans. It shows that any kind of legal system that people put in place, even in Iceland, becomes a disaster.
And I especially wouldn't like all those Icelanders and foreigners in the Blue Lagoon. One Viking would be more than enough.
Well, the one Viking in the lagoon. Hm. A Viking can be female, in which case -sure.
Yeah, but I think there's only one blue lagoon, and it's already taken. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by tonywalt
I'm all for it on a beach in the Caribbean somewhere. I had a blast hanging out on the beach in St. Maarten in only a thong. I even let a couple of people photograph me there. It's okay to do it on special occasions overseas. In American culture, it just doesn't fly.
I'm generally against public nudity, especially around children. I enjoy being naked, sleeping and swimming naked, that's nice. Overall I'm a very modest girl.
There's a nude beach about an hour from my house. I didn't know it was there. A girlfriend of mine and I went to see a sand castle contest. When it was over we walked along beach trails to a cove. We were approached by a very tall naked man. He asked us what time it was and said (I'm not kidding) "A watch doesn't really go with this outfit." It was then we noticed other naked people scattered about the beach. We were 16. We ran as fast as we could away from the horror. Those were some very ugly nakeds.
I participated in some fashion events in Miami. The fitting rooms didn't have individual stalls, just giant rooms with wall to wall mirrors and 20-40 women at a time in all states of undress. I felt shy about it at first, but that goes away, especially when dressers and stylists are ripping clothes off of girls, stuffing breasts into bras, taping garments onto skin, rubbing makeup all over the place. I guess it wasn't a bad experience with "public" nudity, just strange. It was much better than the nude beach.
I'm still a child so that probably affects my view but it disgusts me. In statues and babies I don't mind it, but when people expose themselves simply to show off, it strikes me as quite base. Some of you have too much lust.
If this trend of lower tops and shorter bottoms continues, I think someday I will hide myself in the trees and wrap curtains around my body for clothes.
You're so smart, cl, and a gentleman already. Those who raised you must be very proud.Quote:
Originally Posted by cl154576
I really don't care if there is nudity in public, cause normally i don't pay attention to these stuff and my eyes are usually( not intentionally)glued to the ground or to an object far away (normally my father says i'm in space).as for myself, I hate to expose anypart.
But with what i've read on this thread i would make a fool out of myself if i went to such places (blue lagoon or the beach that Varenne described) simply because i find it rather hilarious and VERY funny!!!!
I have just found paradise. It is Guelph. Guelph, Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1n50mn14
But on a more serious note
I think people look better nude than clothed. And this is not lust talking, I think men look better nude too, the sensibilities and lines of the body are beautiful and clothes hide and distort them.
But then again, outside of university nudity is shunned, and with reason. I mean the body in youth is beautiful, the body of old age is repugnant.
But the human body in youth is something of extreem beauty, that beauty which you want to stare at all day and get lost in, that beauty that is just as enticing the day you first see it, as the 1000th day you see it.
I had the fortune of Seeing the David live, and it blew my mind. For when it comes to the male body I look upon it undhindered by lust, and in it I find something far more delicate and beautiful than that of the female body. I don't know why, but I do.
I mean look at this:
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Im glad someone brought up the naked children thing. Personally I am fine with it and see nothing wrong with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
I remember, I used to live in a condominium of all expat families. All the european mums would let their children wander around the pool and shower naked. And all the American mum's were horrified that we europeans would let our children be so "exposed"
A child is so undeveloped that I hardly see the problem with a naked one, they are still not sexual beings, so I don't see why we should treat them as such. I remember, when I was little I used to often bathe together with the daughter of my mother's good friend. Most american mums were horrified by the idea. To me it seems quite natural. Of course they stopped bathing us together when, after one bath we asked our parents why I had "a little thing" and why she didn't have one as well. I was a slow child, only after 2 years of bathing with a girl did I realize that girls don't have "little thing"...
Shhhhhhhhh - you will jinx it and ruin it for the rest of us :patriot:Quote:
Originally Posted by cl154576
In all seriousness I'm for it. I don't see how nudity is a bad thing anyway. Granted you might not wanna go tripping into everybody, for obvious reasons (including catching something). But other then well placed clumsiness I really don't see any harm in it and it would probably do a lot of people some good to not be afraid of seeing themselves and others naked, might help grow some confidence.
This is not directed at anyone in particular, but I find the claims of nudity and lust being concretely linked to be a bit disturbing. There tends to be less sexual tension when two lovers (or potential lovers) are laying naked together, then when they are fully clothed and making small talk. I think that by demonizing the naked body as a tool of lust, and treating lust as an affliction of mental disease and consequence of cruelness, we are separating ourselves from our bodies. And by doing so we create fears in our nakedness and the nakedness of others around us (Hes naked, so am I, therefor he must be preparing to rape me. So my nudity is the cause of my body being soiled). Which of course presses the idea even further that being naked in non "secure" environments, such as our bed and bathrooms, is a moral crime (with the impression that it will become a physical crime). The end game of this downward spiral results in the overwhelming amount of eating disorders and poor self image. As someone with both, I am well aware that the more I hear about "this is how you should look in little to no clothes" can push forward feelings of insecurity and progress the "disorders" into dangerous extremes. Where as if we started to view nudity as the norm, there is a high possibility that we would start to see the naked body as something to be appreciated and cared for (like how we do with our other visible parts, like our hair and fingernails). And once that happens the worry of aggressive lust should be brought down a few notches from where it stands where we are now, fully clothed, nervous and curious.
If you take nudity for beauty it is OK. The way you look at a nude dog. The way you see a nude child. This is a beauty, an artifact. You stint somebody the right of what he or she comes with birth.
If I want to see a nude body, in full and unclothed with no malice
If I want to kiss her naked body with no remorse and she feels elevated
Tell me where is ugliness
The trouble is that such a viewpoint is subjective - not everybody can admire the beauty of the naked form.
Quite a lot of the undergrads here seem to engage in casual nudity - most often in the stretch of corridor that links the shower blocks with the student dorms. While they might think they are being free-spirited and uninhibited, it really isn't fair on other people who use that corridor as a main route for getting round the college buildings, myself included. If I'm going to the Great Hall for lunch or something, I don't want to suddenly turn a corner and find myself looking at the last turkey in the shop - it's rather off-putting. Others might find it beautiful, but I'm afraid I do not.
A lot of the sports societies also seem to have weird rituals that involve public nudity. The number of times I've seen the rowing/rugby/football crowd parading around outside stark bollock naked in the middle of winter amongst the falling snow is really horrifying. Not only is hypothermia a worryingly real possibility, but sub-zero temperatures really do the human body no favours on the visual front either.
One of my ex-girlfriend's parents used to go on holiday to some nudist camp somewhere. She went with them, as it was the 'family holiday', but she used to hate it, and always insisted on wearing a bikini or something. I'll always remember something she said about it: "Why is it always the one's who have nothing to display that want to show off?" To put it simply, in her experience the people with beautiful bodies seemed the least inclined to public nudity.
Try it. When you next go to the supermarket (as I am about to do), just look around at all the people and ask yourself just how many of them you would actually like to see naked? If it's 15%, you've been lucky.