wouldn't be a bad read for all you philosophers once you've caught up to speed, reading the other works by the man...it's better to burn out than to fade away...he gave his all, you could at least read his work...
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wouldn't be a bad read for all you philosophers once you've caught up to speed, reading the other works by the man...it's better to burn out than to fade away...he gave his all, you could at least read his work...
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Nietzsche went mad from neurosyphilis, Doc.
His omega-point came when he collapsed whilst feeling compassion for a horse that was being flogged in the street - so the story goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Ecce Homo - Behold the man! Read it a few years ago when my liking for Nietszche was stronger than it is now.
So the story goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panglossian
Then, during the next couple of years, he lost his mind and was bedridden with that ridiculous moustache seeing, amongst other things, the mocking figure of Richard Wagner's grizzled ghost.
Nietzsche went mad in a matter of a day, which is why I suspect neurosyphilis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panglossian
That could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
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Zarathustra Rock - "That day I was walking through the woods along the lake of Silvaplana; at a powerful pyramidal rock not far from Surlei I stopped. It was then that this idea (The Eternal Recurrence) came to me" - Ecce Homo
I don't think he was sexually activeQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
He must have tried his luck at least once.Quote:
Originally Posted by prickly_pete
He supposedly visited a brothel in his university days and was infected with syphilis there. Some doubt this though, stating a brain tumour as another possibility.
Nietzsche's medical records leave no doubt as to the cause of his madness within one day: paresis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panglossian
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"What does not kill me, makes me stronger." - Ecce Homo
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I know my fate. One day my name will be associated with the memory of something tremendous - a crisis without equal on earth, the most profound collision of conscience, a decision that was conjured up against everything that had been believed, demanded, hallowed so far. I am no man, I am dynamite! - Ecce Homo
why is the doc so clever? he'll let the philosophers here wrestle w/ that one for awhile...
and while you let that one tangle up your collective minds, don't forget to work your way over to this one by a fellow great one...
nietzsche on nietzsche...can a student of philosophy really ask for more?
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Doc, can I ask you what the hell you are talking about? Nietzsche on Nietzsche? Where? What? How?
nietzsche interpreting his own work...nobody better, wouldn't you agree?
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I don't get what you going on about. Is Ecce Homo somehow involved?
I love your ROAR! more than anything else Doc.
The book is N. commenting on himself and his work, and country doctor is sort of riffing on what N. did in the book a bit while basically praising it, it seems to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Thank you, billl. I would like to read the book now.Quote:
Originally Posted by billl
It's a pretty fun read (if you've read and enjoyed some of his other stuff beforehand, anyhow)--in a way, Nietzsche seems to me like one of the great characters in Western Literature, and his writing is always energetic.
Having digested nearly all of Freddies work and been a big fan in the past,i would say he is a the cream de la creme of western philosophers. (only hume and especially Wittgenstein rival him.) BUT,i wish he had met a good woman to love him and friends who understood him. I think nietzsche would have been soo much greater and would have modified his 'extremeness' against christianity. With a good support system behind him he would have been so helpful for mankind,ditto Kierkeegard. seems to me that Gide was right and that he really desperately wanted to dicredit Jesus and Wagner. But to me freddie was much greater than these two. I often wonder why western philosophers end up being so weird to read with time,whereas a guy like confucious semmed like he stepped out of a time machine,hes that relevant.
By the way,ECCE HOMO,the most bizarre,funny and insightful autobiography i have ever read,and a real insight into the great man. This kind of honesty from a great philosopher is almost unheard of...
If this, if that, none of it is much good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theunderground
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Originally Posted by delta40
I am ever amazed at people calling Nietzsche a philosopher. But when they are asked what was his philosophy, most would respond that it is hard to grasp, while some beasts will buy blindly most of his many jokes as philosophy. The latter will have no trouble telling about the philosophy of Hume, for he was such, a philospher, or Locke or Descartes (apart from his only contribution: analytic geometry), etc.
To compare him with Wittgenstein is outrageous, for the latter trapped himself with the Tractatus and when he decided to recant, those who had piggybacked on his system of confusion with great elaboration wouldn't let him in order to rescue their BS.
If anything, Nietzsche was a humorist. Better than Voltaire by far. The one I see coming close, for example, is Mark Twain. Nietzsche's joke about the superman is constantly being drawn from. He says that he didn't yet arrived, but he named his class as that of Jesus, Caesar, etc. Not yet come because it was impossible in three dimensions and he knew it. In his last days he said that if the superman came, he would be the only one to understand him, to make the joke more evident because he could not get rid of the stupid ones (example:Adolf) who actually took him seriously. But it is pointless for me to keep letting you know, because if you still didn't get it, you are an overripe fig, like the ones Zarathustra saw splashing against the ground in one of his trips.
Many of you think Nietzsche is a puzzle and some of that is true. It did appear to be that to me during my becoming acquainted with him. It takes a lot of indirect thinking to find the climate in which he expressed himself.
Now listen, I'm looking for God with a lantern, among cucumbers, cantaloupes, and beets. I just found some Basil. What happened to God? Is he dead? Did we killed Him 2000 years ago.
In spite of the fact that the character doesn't fit, I should probably sign this
Paul Harvey~ Good Day!
What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it,
The rich don't need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?
There was no way to prove syphilis in those days, just as it was impossible to prove Mozart die from renal illness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Panglossian
I think Nietzsche went to Weimar to be left alone to write his masterpieces. Basil was too loaded with insanity in those days and far too many compromises he needed to escape.
Calumnies were and are many from those who never grasped his ways.
Personations of Nietzsche in the Catholic world were many. And Beyond Good and Evil was erroneously translated to Spanish as Mas alla del bien y del mal, (Beyond good and bad) which was precisely the meaning of Beyond good and evil. Good and bad for Nietzsche was what we needed to arrive at. Not a religious beyond.
Cafolini,i can see behind that mask you are wearing!!! 'o sanctus buffonius!'