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Alright, I have a question, what are the best classics that are best to start with, those that are entertaining yet not very difficult to read. I have read Austin, Dumas, and some Stevenson and I loved them, but I don't really know where to go from here. I just want to know some good/easy starting points for my journey into classic literature. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I know this is all subjective but I see what you guys say and take it from there.
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Originally Posted by misterlit
You probably have in school, depending on your age, but have you tried F. Scott Fitzgerald?
Steinbeck has several short novellas. Quite depressing but they are not at all difficult reads. Pretty to the point, in fact
the first three books that popped into my head were huck finn, the prisoner of zenda, and the scarlet pimpernel.
I'll recommend the works of Conrad, Nabokov, Dostoevsky, and potentially Faulkner if you're feeling ready for something new.
Sir Walter Scott?
Hisare historic tales like Dumas, but 40 years earlier from a more sensitive point of view and less pompous as Dumas by moments. Not very historically accurate apparently, but still nice to read...
Hardy?
It is not packed with symblism and one can easily read it without understanding the symbolism in it.
Fathers and Sons - Ivan Turgenev
Great book, and extremely readable, as well as being fairly short.
The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
For the same reasons as Fathers and Sons.
Here are some suggestions. These are not too long,and are fairly accessible, depending on your taste in reading material:
Fahrenheit 451, Ray bradbury
The Chocolate War, Robert Cormier
The Great Gatsby, F. Scott Fitzgerald
Of Mice and Men, John Steinbeck
To Kill a Mockingbird, Harper Lee
The Bell Jar, Sylvia Plath
The Catcher in the Rye, J.D. Salinger
Lord of the Flies, William Golding
Like Water for Chocolate, Laura Esquivel
Also, here's a college-bound reading list:
http://als.lib.wi.us/Collegebound.html
Have fun!
Conrad, Dostoevsky, and Faulkner? Great writers... but I'm not certain they are where one would wish to begin when first exploring the classics.
Dumas is a good recommendation. A good deal of 19th century novels in general: Bram Stoker's Dracula, Shelley's Frankenstein, Dicken's A Tale of Two Cities, Austen's Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility, Goethe's The Sorrows of Young Werther, Hugo's The Hunchback of Notres Dame (or Notre Dame de Paris), Oscar Wilde's Portrait of Dorian Grey. I agree with the idea of seeking out some of the shorter classics as a place to start: Turgenev's Fathers and Sons, Robert Louis Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass. the tales of Edgar A. Poe, Ambrose Bierce, H.G. Wells, Rudyard Kipling, and even Tolstoy. For more contemporary works: The short stories of Hemingway, Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men and The Pearl, F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, Thomas Mann's Death in Venice, Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio, and Falnnery O'Conner's short stories. Poetry is a separate beast in and of itself and if one has little of no experience of it the best recommendation is probably to choose a good anthology. Good luck.:thumbs_up
I think Mann is a bit heavy for a beginner, stlukesguild. Though Death in Venice is quite short.
I certainly wouldn't recommend any of his novels. I avoided Henry James for the same reason.
Speak for yourself and only yourself, when I was at the start pointing of delving into literature, I wish I had writers with as much scope as Faulkner and Dostoevsky have, hell, even such as Proust. Call me brave or a senile child, but that's the truth of it. And besides, one can more or less take Conrad's Heart of Darkness at face value and still appreciate it's merits, after all it is being taught in high schools along with texts mentioned in this thread, (Fitzgerald, even a bit of Faulkner, etc). I stand by my recommendation.Quote:
Originally Posted by stlukesguild
Hmm, I think Conrad is a bit dense, dunno.
I would go with some of the stuff already mentioned the gothic Victorian texts and perhaps some Verne. I also think Gulliver's Travels and Madame Bovary would be cool too.
I didn't realize how many of those I've read!!Quote:
Originally Posted by qimissung
My reading of the classics started with Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe. After that I read Dracula (which was a good read!) and then a few others...I can't remember the order of! But I recommend those along with Fathers and Sons by Turgenev which is really a great story and easier to follow. If you're just starting out, Dostoevsky might be a little much to take in. Conrad is good, but he makes me sleepy (but definitely worth the read). Good luck in your search! Let us know if you decide to pick any up!
Speak for yourself and only yourself, when I was at the start pointing of delving into literature, I wish I had writers with as much scope as Faulkner and Dostoevsky have, hell, even such as Proust.
Hmmm... The original posting reads (and I quote): "I have a question, what are the best classics that are best to start with, those that are entertaining yet not very difficult to read." Unless you are Harold Bloom you cannot tell me that In Search of Lost Time would be a classic that is at once entertaining and not very difficult to read for the average person beginning to explore classic literature. The length alone would frighten off most beginning readers of classic literature. Certainly it is impossible to know what to recommend a "starting" reader without having a good idea what he or she has or has not read... what he or she likes... what he or she has experience with. Among the first classics I explored on my own were The Odyssey, The Divine Comedy, Don Quixote, Steppenwolf, The Glass Bead Game, and An Enemy of the People. Somehow I don't think these would be ideal for most people starting to read the classics either.
Start with Homer, and work down. That's the most "pragmatic" way to learn to read. Of course, though that only deals with one half of Occidental classics - the Bible filling in the other side, even though it wasn't written in the Occident (As, to an extent, Greek work wasn't as well). From there, either move outward, or downward. I prefer outward now, but personally, I moved downward - so you start pounding through first the major Roman figures, then go through middle ages - Generally, Njals Saga, Chretien de Troyes, Marie de France, and a few epics suffice - and then slowly work through the rennaissance, - from there, you can either go down through the 18th century, or skip it - I prefer skip it, though I have read my fair share of mediocre satires. Downward then, to the Romantics - and beyond.
Of course, the best place to start reading is contemporary times, but for classics, up until 1950, this method will provide the most solid grounding.
Now, if I could go back, I would have probably gone outwards - there is just so much more out there, that ultimately one ends up having to decide whether classics are really classics anymore. It's a shame too, that we are bound to translations. There are hundreds upon hundreds of translations. which are ultimately driven by the politics of the market.
Dracula is an excellent read! It's one of my favorites.Quote:
Originally Posted by grace86
Now now, I did not recommend Proust but your point is clear and understandable. How can one tell? With that said, I admit I did recommend a bit of Dostoevsky, which as he is the forum's reigning hero (only rival to the golden cow as one had recently deemed him on here, Shakespeare), we all know he is rarely a light or easy read. So I suppose I'm at fault. Conrad and Faulkner both have lighter works, and like I said, are being taught in high school. Perhaps, you'd agree with me, stlukesguild, isn't one of the greatest merits of literature it's actual challenge? Obviously you, and myself, have gone to lengths in search of that. Then again, maybe one is again, simply speaking for oneself.Quote:
Originally Posted by stlukesguild
Anna Karenina, Gone With the Wind, Rebecca, Great Expectations, Jude the Obscure
"entertaining yet not very difficult." Several of the books mentioned thus far don't really meet those criteria. I'd recommend:
Sophocles, Antigone
Petronius, Satyricon
Beowulf
Chaucer, Parliament of Fowls
Marlowe, Edward II
Moliere, Tartuffe
Voltaire, Candide
Blake, Songs of Innocence and Experience
Poe, stories
Baudelaire, Flowers of Evil
Twain, Huck Finn
Joyce, Dubliners
Hemingway, In Our Time
Camus, The Stranger
Beckett, Waiting for Godot
Orwell, 1984
A few unconventional choices, I know, but I think all could be read and enjoyed by a relatively inexperienced reader (some might require a bit more effort than others), and it covers a wide swath of Western literature.
Some Thomas Hardy for certain. I think Mayor of Casterbridge an excellent read, along with Tess of the D'Urbervilles, Far From the Madding Crowd. I wouldn't agree with whoever posted Jude to Obscure to begin with. That story was much heavier and difficult; in fact, after Hardy wrote the novel and had it published, he never went back to novel writing again; but he turned his full concentration to his poetry.
Well really, we all have our own opinion of what's entertaining, etc. Nobody is going to interpret it the same, because it's a very subjective topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Wardrip
start with "The Western Cannon" by Harold Bloom.
That's always going to be relative on "entertaining"...it just depends on tastes. You did mention Antigone, I'll second that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Wardrip
If you're into the Classic tragedies, The Oresteia by Aeschylus was pretty good too. Robert Fagles does a translation of that I think...I recommend his translations, they're easier to read through than some others.
Glad you enjoyed Dracula Qimmisung! I found it quite different than how Dracula is seen in Hollywood.
[QUOTE=grace86;741498]That's always going to be relative on "entertaining"...it just depends on tastes. You did mention Antigone, I'll second that.[quote]
Grace, I read Antigone years ago and loved it! Good suggestion.
I have never read, it but that is good to know. I should read it one of these days. It's on my list.Quote:
Glad you enjoyed Dracula Qimmisung! I found it quite different than how Dracula is seen in Hollywood.
Grace, I read Antigone years ago and loved it! Good suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by grace86
I have never read Dracula, but that is good to know. It's probably a fine book. I should read it one of these days. It's on my list.Quote:
Glad you enjoyed Dracula Qimmisung! I found it quite different than how Dracula is seen in Hollywood.
Sounds like you've already gone through the 'starting point' to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by misterlit
I myself haven't enjoyed many of the classics I try out, and I wonder if maybe I'm just not 'ready' for them and should work myself up too. But I'll suggest To Kill A Mockingbird, it's one of the very few classics I like and it's pretty easy to read.
Hey misterlit which of the books you've read did you enjoy the most? Because you could also pursue authors similar to Austen, or to Dumas, or Stevenson. I mean, they may or may not have been easier reads for you, but one could recommend different books for you based off whether you really enjoyed the romance and literary antics of Austen or if you're more of a swashbuckling/adventure type for Stevenson....I think you understand :D Like, which ones caught your attention the best?
Perhaps Dickens..
Yes. Yes. Dickens is great. That would be my reccomendation too. Just don't read A Tale of Two Cities. It is boring. The least charateristic of Dickens work. Dosent have many jokes. i would rather wald through a swamp than read that again. But Great Expectations is very good and not as long as David Copperfield.
Kidnapped (sp?) is my favorite stevenson book. He is good. Really fun to read.
meant walk. not wald. sorry write too fast.
If people are recommending Dickens I would say you should start with Oliver Twist. Out of the few I've read it's probably the 'easiest' read, has a lot of humour in, and gets into the plot a lot quicker than the others.
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Originally Posted by qimissung
This is a perfect list i guess.well done qimissung.But i think these are more like modern classics.
So as old classics i would also add :
Tolstoy-The Death of Ivan illych
Gogol-The overcoat (Le Manteau)
Colette-Caludine's House
Voltaire-Candid
For a start.Enjoy!
How about The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway?
I love that book, but's not difficult at all...
I agree. Oliver Twist is a good book to read. A Christmas Carol would be a good one too. Anyway with all of the reccomendations she will be swamped in books for years.
You have to read Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. It is the most hilarious classic I have ever read!!!
Ovid, Horace, Sophicles, plato, aristotle, marcus aurelius, nietzsche, kierkegaard, dante, huxley, george orwell, hermann hesse, ernest hemmingway, jd salinger,camus, sartre, sun tsu, lao tsu,franz kafka, shakespear, steinbeck
and since everyone is saying steinbeck here are some steinbeck titles i recommend:
Of mice and men,
cannery row,
tortilla flat,
and east of eden was my fav by him
Hmm, of course your taste will have a lot to do with it but I would recommend as follows:
The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
Crime And Punishment - Dosteovsky
Call of the Wild - Jack London
Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
A Midsummer Night's Dream - Shakespeare
A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
I think you'll find something in there to cater for any level of reading or understanding although I echo the point that nothing need to be understood to be enjoyed.
PS: Catch 22 is fabulous and I recommend it although not sure I it's the kind of classic you are referring to.
I highly recommend
Camile by Dumas Fils...sensational love story
Hunger by Knud Hamsun...a young man's half crazed adventures
The Time Machine..HG Wells
The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer...go back to the beginning of
western literature...great stuff
The Red Badge of Courage by Stephen Crane...great war novel
God's Little Acre by Erskine Caldwell...surreal southern life
The Guide by RK Narayan...exotic, mystical Indian novel
I'm not keen on The Time Machine - it seems so implausible now, though it does have some interesting social observation. The film from the 50s recognisd this and changed the motive force of the Morlocks to a nuclear one.
I think there are some great recommendations in the posts.